Comments on: Your Take: A Line Of Impropriety? http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/ The latest country music news and reviews. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:55:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Lucas http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-79549 Lucas Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:05:09 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-79549 I understand what you're saying "HAIRANDTOENAILS," but at the same time - but I still believe artists should have final say. At the same time, if the artist isn't smart enough to take some direction from the label they wouldn't have a record deal in the first place. I understand what you’re saying “HAIRANDTOENAILS,” but at the same time - but I still believe artists should have final say. At the same time, if the artist isn’t smart enough to take some direction from the label they wouldn’t have a record deal in the first place.

]]> By: hairandtoenails http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78927 hairandtoenails Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:44:26 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78927 Along the lines of Stormy's point about Kelly Clarkson: "He Stopped Loving Her Today" is often considered one of country's best songs, but George Jones hated it and recorded it only because his producer Billy Sherrill hounded him into recording it. Along the lines of Stormy’s point about Kelly Clarkson:

“He Stopped Loving Her Today” is often considered one of country’s best songs, but George Jones hated it and recorded it only because his producer Billy Sherrill hounded him into recording it.

]]> By: Darrell http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78919 Darrell Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:28:31 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78919 i think you do have a stronger bond if the writer/producer is a friend with the artist. that should make for a stronger and longer career. i think you do have a stronger bond if the writer/producer is a friend with the artist. that should make for a stronger and longer career.

]]> By: Dan http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78917 Dan Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:24:51 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78917 i thought hank and fred were friend's? if it was mutually just business do you think hank would've been as sucessful? because i think their friendship was the reason for their sucess together because of thier respect of each other. can you really say the same for most of today's business partnerships. i thought hank and fred were friend’s? if it was mutually just business do you think hank would’ve been as sucessful? because i think their friendship was the reason for their sucess together because of thier respect of each other. can you really say the same for most of today’s business partnerships.

]]> By: Brady Vercher http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78915 Brady Vercher Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:08:51 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78915 Paul, I don't think that at all. I offered the Fred Rose/Hank Williams partnership up as a counterexample and chose it because I figured it would be universally recognized as an instance of a situation where the relationship was mutually beneficial. Paul, I don’t think that at all. I offered the Fred Rose/Hank Williams partnership up as a counterexample and chose it because I figured it would be universally recognized as an instance of a situation where the relationship was mutually beneficial.

]]> By: Stormy http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78914 Stormy Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:01:19 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78914 And there is something to be said for producers. Rumor has it that Kelly Clarkson and Clive Davis fought over every song on her last album. She won and came out with the most critically and fan panned album of her career. Likewise, something tells me we won't be having this conversation if Chely Wright covers a couple of Rodney Crowell songs on her nect album. And there is something to be said for producers. Rumor has it that Kelly Clarkson and Clive Davis fought over every song on her last album. She won and came out with the most critically and fan panned album of her career.

Likewise, something tells me we won’t be having this conversation if Chely Wright covers a couple of Rodney Crowell songs on her nect album.

]]> By: Paul W Dennis http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78912 Paul W Dennis Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:43:59 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78912 Poor example - I don't think Fred Rose did any harm to Hank Williams career at all. Fred was a top flight songwriter (often writing under the name Floyd Jenkin) and often assisted on Hank's compositions without taking a co-writing credit, in addition to the ones where he did take a co-writing credit Do you really think that the writer of such classics as "Be Honest With Me", "It's A Sin", "Pins and Needles (in My Heart)", "No One Will Ever Know", "Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain", "Take These Chains From My Heart", "Setting The Woods on Fire" , "Hank Your Head in Shame" and "Faded Love and Winter Roses" was a hack writer foisting off inferior material on his artist? Poor example - I don’t think Fred Rose did any harm to Hank Williams career at all. Fred was a top flight songwriter (often writing under the name Floyd Jenkin) and often assisted on Hank’s compositions without taking a co-writing credit, in addition to the ones where he did take a co-writing credit

Do you really think that the writer of such classics as “Be Honest With Me”, “It’s A Sin”, “Pins and Needles (in My Heart)”, “No One Will Ever Know”, “Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain”, “Take These Chains From My Heart”, “Setting The Woods on Fire” , “Hank Your Head in Shame” and “Faded Love and Winter Roses” was a hack writer foisting off inferior material on his artist?

]]> By: Darrell http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78907 Darrell Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:54:12 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78907 so do ya think it's a position of power being played by the producers to make sure the artist does not become huge to make it easier for them to keep a noose around the artist career, so they dont run off at the first sign of more money or more song opportunities. thats why i feel if you do it all yourself you can find the producer to fit your style easier instead of putting up with all that bull of being forced and told what to do. so do ya think it’s a position of power being played by the producers to make sure the artist does not become huge to make it easier for them to keep a noose around the artist career, so they dont run off at the first sign of more money or more song opportunities. thats why i feel if you do it all yourself you can find the producer to fit your style easier instead of putting up with all that bull of being forced and told what to do.

]]> By: J.R. Journey http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78903 J.R. Journey Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:21:12 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78903 While the producer-written song may be 'good', aren't the artist and producer limiting themselves if they aren't looking at every possible song? They could very well miss an opportunity for a 'great' song that could really break an artist or revive a slumping career. So if producer-written songs or songs from only a handful of publishing companies are considered, then the producer and the artists are seriously handicapping the project. And with all the great tunesmiths in Nashville and beyond, isn't it a little arrogant and/or self-indulgent to automatically decide other songs are sub-par. Simply because someone else owns the copyrights? It's also interesting that so many artists fought for years to record original material while producer-written tunes have appeared as album filler for decades ... While the producer-written song may be ‘good’, aren’t the artist and producer limiting themselves if they aren’t looking at every possible song? They could very well miss an opportunity for a ‘great’ song that could really break an artist or revive a slumping career. So if producer-written songs or songs from only a handful of publishing companies are considered, then the producer and the artists are seriously handicapping the project.

And with all the great tunesmiths in Nashville and beyond, isn’t it a little arrogant and/or self-indulgent to automatically decide other songs are sub-par. Simply because someone else owns the copyrights? It’s also interesting that so many artists fought for years to record original material while producer-written tunes have appeared as album filler for decades …

]]> By: Darrell http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78872 Darrell Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:12:39 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/your-take-a-line-of-impropriety/#comment-78872 i guess i have always looked more too the straight and narrow ways of sucess within a career with the songwriter(with a little outside help like friends)being the artist and having control of thier situation. i understand its a rough business, but it just does not attract me to think a producer/songwriter has great songs to give to artist which could make the album a multi-platinum seller, but they opt out to give a song to one artist and couple too another and if their lucky it might hit gold. how exactly does this work, does the artist get to choose the songs they didnt write or our they forced? thats why i prefer artist that make and play their own music because the emotion is there already and it just seems real and more natural. i guess i have always looked more too the straight and narrow ways of sucess within a career with the songwriter(with a little outside help like friends)being the artist and having control of thier situation. i understand its a rough business, but it just does not attract me to think a producer/songwriter has great songs to give to artist which could make the album a multi-platinum seller, but they opt out to give a song to one artist and couple too another and if their lucky it might hit gold. how exactly does this work, does the artist get to choose the songs they didnt write or our they forced? thats why i prefer artist that make and play their own music because the emotion is there already and it just seems real and more natural.

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