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	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, harsh. Martie's quote is being taken completely out of the context of the - umm...narrow-minded, idiotic, violent, nasty, angry, threatening - fan/radio/industry backlash the Chicks experienced. Anyone who knows and loves the Chicks knows that Martie is the biggest country fan of all three of them. In fact, Reba happened to be one of her heroes growing up. However, Reba (and Toby) went out of their way to bash the Chicks when they were getting dumped on and Reba in particular really hurt Martie.  

However, Martie has been the first one to admit that the Time quote came out wrong. She wasn't attempting to dump on country fans. However, many country fans - in particular Matt C. and some others on this site - seem to really want to take it that way. Don't hurt/insult/slight our precious country music!! Give me a break. The Chicks are still more country than most everything coming out of Nashville. Their 2006 tour included a bluegrass instrumental for goodness sake, and 7 songs from their album "Home."  

Don't dump on "Taking the Long Way" because it isn't as country as you would have liked or not to your country tastes. It is an amazing album and deserved all of its Grammy awards. Maybe the awards weren't about "Nashville," despite Nashville's desire to play the "victim" in this saga. 

You forget that country fans come in all shapes, sizes and varieties, with different tastes.  Some of us can get a HUGE kick out of Johnny Cash's middle finger salute to Nashville and still love country music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, harsh. Martie&#8217;s quote is being taken completely out of the context of the - umm&#8230;narrow-minded, idiotic, violent, nasty, angry, threatening - fan/radio/industry backlash the Chicks experienced. Anyone who knows and loves the Chicks knows that Martie is the biggest country fan of all three of them. In fact, Reba happened to be one of her heroes growing up. However, Reba (and Toby) went out of their way to bash the Chicks when they were getting dumped on and Reba in particular really hurt Martie.  </p>
<p>However, Martie has been the first one to admit that the Time quote came out wrong. She wasn&#8217;t attempting to dump on country fans. However, many country fans - in particular Matt C. and some others on this site - seem to really want to take it that way. Don&#8217;t hurt/insult/slight our precious country music!! Give me a break. The Chicks are still more country than most everything coming out of Nashville. Their 2006 tour included a bluegrass instrumental for goodness sake, and 7 songs from their album &#8220;Home.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t dump on &#8220;Taking the Long Way&#8221; because it isn&#8217;t as country as you would have liked or not to your country tastes. It is an amazing album and deserved all of its Grammy awards. Maybe the awards weren&#8217;t about &#8220;Nashville,&#8221; despite Nashville&#8217;s desire to play the &#8220;victim&#8221; in this saga. </p>
<p>You forget that country fans come in all shapes, sizes and varieties, with different tastes.  Some of us can get a HUGE kick out of Johnny Cash&#8217;s middle finger salute to Nashville and still love country music.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never been into multiple-disc changers, for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been into multiple-disc changers, for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats right, can you even imagine having only a 1 discer, or even more sad, an ipod shuffle instead of a nano??  how close minded must those fans be? the shuffle doesnt even allow them to choose which "cool" song to play after possibly a country one???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats right, can you even imagine having only a 1 discer, or even more sad, an ipod shuffle instead of a nano??  how close minded must those fans be? the shuffle doesnt even allow them to choose which &#8220;cool&#8221; song to play after possibly a country one???</p>
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		<title>By: Brody Vercher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brody Vercher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just glad I have a six-disc changer. It must suck to be one of those five-discers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad I have a six-disc changer. It must suck to be one of those five-discers.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bigger awards is where the big labels show their muscle as voting blocs... though who knows how long that will last as more and more Grammy voters are shown the door at these majors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger awards is where the big labels show their muscle as voting blocs&#8230; though who knows how long that will last as more and more Grammy voters are shown the door at these majors.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too think each of the above comments regarding Maine's hopes for her "new" fan base are on point in one way or another as there are multiple ways it can be taken, depending on if you like her or not. "Long Way" was a great album, regardless of how "country" it was or how it stacks up against some of their older, more countrified albums.  

As far as the grammy's, I continue to be amazed at some of the albums that get the big noms.  The Foo Fighters for example are nominated for all of the top categories, yet by many reviews released their 3rd or 4th best cd while garnering mainly so-so mixed reviews, as a Foo fan, I couldnt help but notice that there isnt anything particularly new or exciting on this most recent release.  Each year we see snubs and we see albums get rewarded for peripheral issues such as "career excellence" or past snubs, or sociopolitical statements.  I find myslef impressed with many of the "smaller", more specific categories noms such as "alternative album" and the folk category.  The voters there seem to have their fingers on the pulse, yet seemingly lose that touch when it comes to the bigger awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too think each of the above comments regarding Maine&#8217;s hopes for her &#8220;new&#8221; fan base are on point in one way or another as there are multiple ways it can be taken, depending on if you like her or not. &#8220;Long Way&#8221; was a great album, regardless of how &#8220;country&#8221; it was or how it stacks up against some of their older, more countrified albums.  </p>
<p>As far as the grammy&#8217;s, I continue to be amazed at some of the albums that get the big noms.  The Foo Fighters for example are nominated for all of the top categories, yet by many reviews released their 3rd or 4th best cd while garnering mainly so-so mixed reviews, as a Foo fan, I couldnt help but notice that there isnt anything particularly new or exciting on this most recent release.  Each year we see snubs and we see albums get rewarded for peripheral issues such as &#8220;career excellence&#8221; or past snubs, or sociopolitical statements.  I find myslef impressed with many of the &#8220;smaller&#8221;, more specific categories noms such as &#8220;alternative album&#8221; and the folk category.  The voters there seem to have their fingers on the pulse, yet seemingly lose that touch when it comes to the bigger awards.</p>
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		<title>By: hairandtoenails</title>
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		<dc:creator>hairandtoenails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment can be seen as insulting, although in a different way than the typical mis-interpretation. 

The quote also is to interpret. Who exactly is the fan that "ha[s] us in their five-disc changer with {Reba and Toby]" What does she mean? Is she bashing fans who like Reba and Toby too?  Fans who like what is  popular? Exactly what kind of fan is this? Why are these people so undesirable to have as fans? 

Perhaps appealing to these fans does "limit what you can do," , but ihaving a smaller fan base of "people who get it" will also "limit what you can do." Playing larger arenas may limit what you can do but so does playing in bars or small venues. What kind of limits is Martie concerned with?

Moreover why is this "five disc changer" fan someone other than a "really cool [person] who get(s) it?" The comment seems to imply that these people are mutually exclusive, and why is that? Is this a false dichotomy? And do all fans fall within one of these two categories?

Martie didn't articulate her thoughts very clearly, and the comment can be interpreted in several ways, many of which are insulting to certain country fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment can be seen as insulting, although in a different way than the typical mis-interpretation. </p>
<p>The quote also is to interpret. Who exactly is the fan that &#8220;ha[s] us in their five-disc changer with {Reba and Toby]&#8221; What does she mean? Is she bashing fans who like Reba and Toby too?  Fans who like what is  popular? Exactly what kind of fan is this? Why are these people so undesirable to have as fans? </p>
<p>Perhaps appealing to these fans does &#8220;limit what you can do,&#8221; , but ihaving a smaller fan base of &#8220;people who get it&#8221; will also &#8220;limit what you can do.&#8221; Playing larger arenas may limit what you can do but so does playing in bars or small venues. What kind of limits is Martie concerned with?</p>
<p>Moreover why is this &#8220;five disc changer&#8221; fan someone other than a &#8220;really cool [person] who get(s) it?&#8221; The comment seems to imply that these people are mutually exclusive, and why is that? Is this a false dichotomy? And do all fans fall within one of these two categories?</p>
<p>Martie didn&#8217;t articulate her thoughts very clearly, and the comment can be interpreted in several ways, many of which are insulting to certain country fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul W Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul W Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why anyone would think that the entire quote is any less insulting and condescending than the snippet usually quoted 

I had to laugh a little, though. I just got back from Tampa and in my changer were old Reba (on Mercury) and Toby Keith CDs as well as Sarah Vaughan,  Count Basie and John Fogarty CDs. If that isn't good enough company for the Chix, they can just kiss my ***</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why anyone would think that the entire quote is any less insulting and condescending than the snippet usually quoted </p>
<p>I had to laugh a little, though. I just got back from Tampa and in my changer were old Reba (on Mercury) and Toby Keith CDs as well as Sarah Vaughan,  Count Basie and John Fogarty CDs. If that isn&#8217;t good enough company for the Chix, they can just kiss my ***</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt - As I look upon the Grammy nominations EVERY YEAR I know that there are motivations other than artistic quality that come into play in the nominating and awards process - in many categories.  I look at this year being pretty weak across the board.  I don't think there's a "statement record" out there in the big three main categories.  In some ways the Vince Gill record fits that bill the best just due to its pure artistic ambition in an era where so many artists are constrained by commercial considerations and label politics.

I do happen to think "Taking the Long Way" was indeed the best album of last year, no matter what category people tried to put it in, so I was happy they won so many awards for that reason alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt - As I look upon the Grammy nominations EVERY YEAR I know that there are motivations other than artistic quality that come into play in the nominating and awards process - in many categories.  I look at this year being pretty weak across the board.  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a &#8220;statement record&#8221; out there in the big three main categories.  In some ways the Vince Gill record fits that bill the best just due to its pure artistic ambition in an era where so many artists are constrained by commercial considerations and label politics.</p>
<p>I do happen to think &#8220;Taking the Long Way&#8221; was indeed the best album of last year, no matter what category people tried to put it in, so I was happy they won so many awards for that reason alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The release of Taking the Long Way was followed by assertions from the Dixie Chicks that they no longer wished to be considered country and did not want fans who have artists like Toby Keith and Reba McEntire in their CD changers."

That's a willful misinterpretation of Martie's quote that I've seen once too often. What she clearly meant was that the group wants to make music that attracts passionate interest rather than the passive interest that most mainstream country fans have in whatever happens to be on the radio at the moment. 

What the hell, here's the whole quote. You be the judge:  

"I'd rather have a smaller following of really cool people who get it … who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith.  We don't want those kinds of fans.  They limit what you can do."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The release of Taking the Long Way was followed by assertions from the Dixie Chicks that they no longer wished to be considered country and did not want fans who have artists like Toby Keith and Reba McEntire in their CD changers.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a willful misinterpretation of Martie&#8217;s quote that I&#8217;ve seen once too often. What she clearly meant was that the group wants to make music that attracts passionate interest rather than the passive interest that most mainstream country fans have in whatever happens to be on the radio at the moment. </p>
<p>What the hell, here&#8217;s the whole quote. You be the judge:  </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d rather have a smaller following of really cool people who get it … who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith.  We don&#8217;t want those kinds of fans.  They limit what you can do.&#8221;</p>
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