The Lost Trailers - “Holler Back”
When Gwen Stefani’s smash-hit “Hollaback Girl” hit the airwaves in 2005, I danced, I sang along like a school girl, spelled out “bananas” at the top of my lungs, and, of course, I had absolutely no idea what the hell Stefani was talking about. To this day I cannot articulate exactly what a “Hollaback Girl” is, or precisely why she felt it so necessary to proclaim that she ain’t none.
Nevertheless, I loved that song. Sometimes it’s nice to just experience music without having to deal with a single moment of cognitive thought.
But three years is an eternity in the cultural frame of reference. And as much as I loved “Hollaback Girl” (and the rest of Stefani’s splendid Love.Angel.Music.Baby album), I haven’t thought about either in a very long time.
So for lead singer Ryder Lee and the rest of BNA’s The Lost Trailers, I can’t help feeling like current single, “Holler Back,” which pokes fun at the phrase Stefani ingrained into the suburban lexicon, is an opportunity lost to very poor timing.
“Holler Back” is an incredibly tight track with a John Rich-worthy hook (involving a female’s “shaking” of her “sassafras”), which showcases guitarist Stokes Nielson’s spot-on and, I think, under-appreciated songwriting talent. This guy is flat-out a songwriting stud.
But does anyone remember “Hollaback Girl?” And even if they do, does anybody care?
That was so yesterday.
There’s a bit of a “so what?” factor at play with “Holler Back.” And despite the fact that this is a solid effort from a well-traveled and relatively distinct sounding group, in the end it looses some of its zest because it comes so far after the fact, trying to cleverly play off a shared cultural moment that we’ve all moved beyond.
I like a lot of things about this record, and I think it has a chance do well at radio. But I question its relevance, and I’m inclined to believe that it’s eventual impact will be far less than if it had been released two years before.
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March 21, 2008 at 5:26 am Permalink
Seriously? Whan one of Gwen Stefani’s cultural confections results in a response song you’ve you’ve got to wonder what these boys were thinking. Maybe we can go on a date with Gwen? (memo - she’s married.)
We all have our guilty pleasures (mine is Kylie Minogue’s “Can’t Get You Out Of My Head”) but to use one as a springboard for inspiration? That’s like sTarting the 4th quarter 30 down against the Celtics…DAMN YOU CELTICS!!!
March 21, 2008 at 6:14 am Permalink
Jim, I have listened to this one for a few weeks now on my iPod and I have to say that I think it’s not directly referencing the song but rather talking about the differences in the culture of Hip-hop and Country and using humor to good effect. When I first heard this, I wondered why B&R hadn’t written it.
I love the Lost Trailers (especially the ‘older stuff’) and hope this one is a big hit for ‘em. It’s a fun, irreverent summer single.
As for ‘guilty pleasures’ I have been known to rock out to ‘cheesy pop’ like Gwen from time to time.
March 21, 2008 at 7:53 am Permalink
I think you’re giving this song way too much credit. This thing was written as a sing-along, “holler back” if you will, for a concert audience of drunk coeds. I don’t hear anything more sophisticated than that.
March 21, 2008 at 8:10 am Permalink
I agree with Matt C. I also think the Trailers have a couple of novelty songs that merely amount to fluffy throw away. I agree with Jim that it’s nice to have a song that doesnt require a ton of thinking every so often. We all have our guilty pleasures. However, seeing them live at Willie’s picnic a few years ago, I couldnt help but feel they were a cheesy, carpet-bagging, wannabe-top 40 band trying to get some Texas cred. After finding out Willie himself is a fan only helped me a small amount, as Willie seems to work with anyone who shoots him an email these days.
March 21, 2008 at 8:25 am Permalink
Hmm, gotta remember to shoot Willie an email …
March 21, 2008 at 8:29 am Permalink
Oh, and I’ve always figured a “hollaback girl” would be one of the cheerleaders who “hollas back” when cheers are called out — i.e., a follower, not a leader.
March 21, 2008 at 8:51 am Permalink
Chris N., I hope you’re not suggesting that Willie is in the least bit discriminating when it comes to collaboration??
March 21, 2008 at 9:16 am Permalink
Kelly - great comment; “Willie seems to work with anyone who shoots him an e-mail these days.” Hilarious with a kernel of truth.
He’s larger-than-life at this point, and he’s almost on borrowed time; so he can do what he wants to. But he really seems careless sometimes with the projects he agrees to, etc.
Latest example: allowing Kenny Chesney (?!!?*!?) to serve as “Producer” on a whole album project. Why in the world? You can almost picture Kenny or his reps repeatedly calling or e-mailing Willie –practically begging him to agree to it.
March 21, 2008 at 9:33 am Permalink
My favorite Willie duet of all is “Back on the Road” with Lil’ Black, on which Willie actually raps. I swear to you, this does exist:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/lilblack
March 21, 2008 at 9:56 am Permalink
I’ve always appreciated that Willie sings with so many different artists. I’ve always thought he was a jazz singer playing and singing country music. Singing with different people let’s him sing different kinds of music, i.e. Toots Hibbert, Wynton Marsalis, Gypsy Pacific, and on and on. He’s one of a kind. I liked the Kenny Chesney Worry B Gone duet, and the album. The Dave Matthews ‘Gravedigger’ is great. Letting different artists produce his albums and pick his songs makes it interesting to me. He has so many recordings in the can, that we will get to listen to classic Willie for years to come; I like that he mixes it up the way he does with young artists, different genres.
March 21, 2008 at 9:58 am Permalink
Guy, actually Kenny was approached by Willie’s people; they had collaborated on ‘Sunny Ole’ Sky’, on Kenny’s album, and liked how it sounded.
March 21, 2008 at 10:02 am Permalink
I meant they recorded Lucky old Sun
March 21, 2008 at 10:03 am Permalink
For the record, I too appreciate that he is daring in these decisions. I dont always think the outcome is as great as other choices, but I like that he marches to his own drummer. I did truly enjoy the songbird disc that was produced by ryan adams, and think teatro with daniel lanois was damn near a masterwork. At some point however, the whole practice of working with so many different types of artists and releasing such a diversity of styles (reggae, cindy walker tribute, country pop, etc…)becomes tired and cartoonish even for willie.
March 21, 2008 at 10:15 am Permalink
Urban Dictionary to the rescue:
1. A holler back girl is the kind of girl who if you holler or holla at them, they are likely to acknowledge your attempt to mack or spit game and give you a chance.
playa: “Damn boo you is fine! Here’s my number. Holler at your boy tonight.”
HBG: “Ok playa. You’s is a fine mans, so i’m gonna call you tonight.”
playa: (later that same day) “Yo dawg peep this. I spit game to this (fly) ass hoochie and she was diggin my game. So she is gonna call me after she gets her weave fixed.”
playa 2: “She’s a holler back girl for sure. Go ahead playa!”
March 21, 2008 at 10:56 am Permalink
Oh, Brady, you are a wealth of information, aren’t cha?
March 21, 2008 at 11:04 am Permalink
So a “holler back girl” is a slut, see skank?
March 21, 2008 at 11:28 am Permalink
You act as if “holler back” isn’t a common phrase - to this very day. It was a well established bit of slang well before Gwen’s song too…. it’s not “rad” or “all that,” it’s a fairly engrained saying. I don’t think this group is riding the coattails of anyone… and I haven’t even heard the song (and honestly haven’t heard a song of their’s I like much).
March 21, 2008 at 12:59 pm Permalink
Where I grew up, “holler back” was just what you did when somebody hollered at you. Except your parents, natch.
March 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm Permalink
Natch? Neato.
March 21, 2008 at 1:19 pm Permalink
Was there a Friday Night Smackdown between Cole Deggs & his gang and The Lost Trailers to see who’d stay under the Sony/BMG umbrella?
March 21, 2008 at 4:45 pm Permalink
Kenny,
If there was one, it looks as though The Lost Trailers won although I think the big boss just likes them more (and the fact they have an established following and a ‘history’ of albums already, even if the label doesn’t care to ‘reissue’ those albums).
March 21, 2008 at 8:17 pm Permalink
Willie even did a duet with relative unknown Carly Goodwin on his classic song “Crazy” on her self titled debut album. Carly has a nice voice and some fine songs on that CD, but surprisingly this ain’t one of them:
http://cdbaby.com/mp3lofi/carlygoodwin-03.m3u
The Lost Trailers just get lost among the other “male harmony country rock” groups that have been trying to break into mainstream country radio the last couple years. This includes Cole Deggs (as mentioned above) along with Whiskey Falls and Crossin Dixon and others I can’t even recall they are so generic. Top 40 country radio doesn’t seem to want these types of groups so why do the labels keep pushing them? The labels need new clones of Rascal Flatts not a bunch of highly competent country rock bar bands! I do like Carolina Rain and Jypsi as far as new vocal harmony groups go but radio has ignored them too. I guess “Little Big Town” fills the one slot radio has for such groups these days……
March 21, 2008 at 8:29 pm Permalink
I would like the Jypsi music more if it sounded more like the way they sound when they’re down at Layla’s. Nashvillians, wouldn’t you agree?
March 23, 2008 at 1:40 am Permalink
If this song had been released two years ago, we would probably see critics ragging on it for “trying to capitalize on the success of” the Stefani song, and they’d still be pointlessly writing off a fun song. It’s especially silly because there’s very little about this song that’s remotely reminiscent of “Hollaback Girl.” So um…
March 23, 2008 at 3:20 am Permalink
Dan–
Whether or not the songwriters “meant” to directly comments on Stefani’s song is irrelevant. The cultural impact of “Hollaback Girl” is far more wide-reaching than the phrase “Holler Back”. Without that song, I doubt most of the Country audience would have any idea what “Holler Back” means. In that sense, “Holler Back” (the song) only makes sense as a reaction to Stefani–otherwise, it would be like taking a random piece of urban slang and discussing it in a country song.
March 23, 2008 at 12:05 pm Permalink
The CMA loves it when you capitalize Country.
March 23, 2008 at 12:12 pm Permalink
I always thought there was something a little defensive about that. Sometimes it’s a good shorthand for distinguishing between the radio format and the genre, which are two very different things.
March 23, 2008 at 2:23 pm Permalink
I just kind of thought of it as being along the same lines as Tim McGraw’s “Back When”, really.
March 23, 2008 at 11:37 pm Permalink
Jim -
My point in introducing the (hypothetical) concern that the song could have been perceived to have been capitalizing on Stefani’s was that ANY song that is critiqued on the basis of “cultural relevance” is bound to look crass for one reason or another. Granted, there are some songs which are inextricable from the context they were written in or are meant to address, but for the general purposes of a critical review I would think it much more canny to grade a song according to its distinguishable merits (some of which you did mention) rather than some highly individualized notion of the song’s degree of “fit” within popular culture.
I guess what it comes down to is that we disagree about the extent to which this song can stand alone as a viable piece of music removed from the shadow of “Hollaback Girl.” You seem to think people will hear the hook and write it off as “silly and outdated” (if I may quote “Zoolander”); I think people will hear the hook and not even notice (or care about) the slight evocation of a hit-gone-by because they’ll be too busy having a good time listening to a fun, well-delivered record. Who knows.
March 25, 2008 at 9:33 am Permalink
I love The Lost Trailers, but really have to question BNA’s choices for single releases. There’s no way “Summer Of Love” and “Hey Baby” shouldn’t have been released as singles.
As for “Holler Back”…. there’s no doubt it a great live song and a nice album track, but probably (yet again) not BNA’s best choice for a single.
March 26, 2008 at 8:53 pm Permalink
I completely agree with Dan. And if you’re going to review a song, don’t spend 3/4 of your review talking about a completely different song. I love the song (I also love Gwen’s, but that’s neither here nor there) and think it’s a fun summer song-why the need to overanalyze it’s cultural significance? At least Jim got one thing right-Stokes Nielson is a songwriting stud!!!
March 27, 2008 at 11:47 pm Permalink
I shudder at what has become of the LT. Too bad they couldn’t stay true to their roots, was a big fan of the ‘Welcome to the Woods’ record. Stokes is a songwriting genius!
March 28, 2008 at 8:12 am Permalink
I agree with others in that this song has nothing to do with Stefani’s song. I think you may have missed the boat on this one. When I first heard the song I thought that it was a clever play on words and the phrase that is often used in pop culture, not particular to a song. Just a guess If we’re looking at it in that light, the phrases “Holla”, “Holla Back” can probably traced to southern, country roots; “I’ll give you a Holler”. It’s funny how this phrase seems to have run from country, to Hip-Hop (Fabolous: “Holla Back Young’n”) to Pop (Stefani) and now to country music seemingly forgetting that they originated the phrase.
All that said I did enjoy the some of the musical merits of it and I’d give it a Thumbs Up.
April 8, 2008 at 9:22 pm Permalink
To be honest, I hadn’t even heard of “Hollaback Girl” until I read this article, let alone heard it.
April 18, 2008 at 12:28 pm Permalink
Mr. Malec - You are a moron. This song in no way has anything to do with Gwen Stephani or her song. The song is comparing how silly the hip hop slang is to a country boy. And the song has a great southern rock beat, which makes it a fantastic song to those that listen to country, which you apparently do not. Please get a clue about the genre you are writing about before you write about it.
FYI - A “hollaback girl” is a cheerleader who is a follower. She doesn’t make the decision for herself, she just “hollers back” what the others say.
April 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm Permalink
I LOVE this song and play it really loud whenever it comes on the radio - and here in Texas they play it a lot because it has a sound similar to Cross Candian Ragweed, who are the local favorites.
May 4, 2008 at 6:20 pm Permalink
ALL OF U R ******* STUPID
May 4, 2008 at 6:21 pm Permalink
SUSAN KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON ABOUT TIME SOMEBODY DOES
May 4, 2008 at 6:44 pm Permalink
I don’t always agree with the criticism expressed by this site’s staff or the people in the comments section, but I somehow doubt that using the caps lock key is going to make your argument that everyone who has posted in this thread save for ‘Susan’ is ‘fucking stupid’ any more compelling.
May 14, 2008 at 3:57 am Permalink
To us country folks a “holler”(perhaps properly called a hollow?) is a low spot between two hills. It seems to me the Lost Trailers aren’t referring to hollering at anyone or trying to make a statement regarding Gwen Stefani’s music. They simply like their holler; a great place to party which is typically found in the woods.
June 2, 2008 at 5:57 pm Permalink
This is an wesome somg and has nothing 2 do with gwen stefani and songs come and go there are alot of older songs i kno that my friends dont kno because there old ut this is song is sooo awesome
June 3, 2008 at 1:44 am Permalink
I like the song, though I don’t necessarily think it’s “wesome.” After all, I’m not personally one of the members of Lost Trailers. “Theysome,” perhaps?
June 3, 2008 at 8:39 pm Permalink
I actually like this song…. I crank it up pretty loud myself when it plays. As someone who is tired of people who think they are something they are not, I love it. I also like that for once someone realizes that most of us who grew up in rural areas in the south mostly party in fields with a big bonfire(AKA Holler). Kinda makes me think of my high school days. And I don’t think this has anything to do with Gwen, more making fun of those who use such idiotic slang (although we in the south are just as guilty)
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