Stonewall Jackson VS. The Opry: Whose Side Are You On?

Brody Vercher | February 10th, 2007 Email Share

More news has popped up on the Stonewall Jackson and Opry lawsuit. The article basically reiterates all the complaints that Jackson had a while back and explains the other side of the story.

Jackson’s Accusations
Jackson said he approached Fisher on several occasions and was told things like, ‘I don’t want any gray hairs on that stage or in the audience, and before I’m done there won’t be any’ and ‘You’re too old and too country.’

Jackson further alleged in his lawsuit that the reduction in appearances violated the Opry’s union contract with The American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. He also said it breached a long-standing agreement between the Opry and its stars that in exchange for performing at least 26 times a year _ even during the height of their careers when they could make much more money playing tour dates _ they could always remain an Opry member.

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Gaylord’s Stance
‘Jackson, like other Opry members, is an independent performer, free to accept or decline offers from the Opry to perform on its stage, free to appear elsewhere at any time, and free to earn whatever compensation he can from whatever source,’ Gaylord stated.

Furthermore, the company said Opry members no longer have to perform 26 times a year to maintain their membership, and haven’t for a long time.

Like Jackson, Gaylord Entertainment is free to determine the best mix of performers for any given show and is ‘not required to invite Jackson or anyone else to perform at any certain show or for any number of performances,’ the company said.

I can see where Jackson would have a problem with the Opry if the allegations he is making are true, but I don’t think he has much of case against the Opry. As Matt pointed out a while back, the Opry still has many artists perform that are around the same age as Jackson, so it’ll be hard to prove that they were being discriminatory. What do you guys think about the case? Based on what you read in the article, who do you think would win the case?

(maybe we should add a poll feature for questions like this)

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  1. […] member of the Grand Ole Opry, and since he joined two Opry members have died and others (like Stonewall Jackson) have had public rifts with the famous institution. While the Opry has had longer membership […]

  1. Matt C.
    February 10, 2007 at 1:35 pm Permalink

    In Stonewall’s heyday, most artists still presumed that Opry membership was necessary to achieve stardom in country music. Earlier, Eddy Arnold had proved the Opry wrong and went on to achieve greater success and make more money after he left the Opry, but Stonewall and many others still sacrificed a lot of better-paying gigs in order to maintain the Opry appearances that they thought were fueling their careers. In the Stonewall Jackson era, the opportunity cost of Opry membership was substantial and Jackson is obviously bitter and feels he is owed more loyalty.

    I would like to see the full Gaylord statement, as I’m suprised they didn’t make any references to the age diversity of Opry members and regular performers. What both sides know but neither will say is that the decline in Stonewall Jackson’s Opry performances more to his relatively unnotable career than his age. The Opry still sells out every time George Jones or Loretta Lynn plays, and no one complains that they have too many gray hairs or are too country. Like I said earlier, old, pure-country artists that lack George Jones stature (Jimmy Dickens, Porter Wagoner, Jim Ed Brown, etc.) still play almost every Opry show. While they seldom appear on the televised portion of the Opry, I’ve never heard anyone suggest that their appearances should be reduced because of their advancing age.

  2. Paul W Dennis
    February 11, 2007 at 11:46 am Permalink

    Historically, the Opry has weeded out artists whose popularity had slipped or projected too rural an image. During the 1960s the Crook Brothers and The Fruit Jar Drinkers were forced to form one group in order to maintain any play slots on the Opry. Old timers like Stonewall Jackson and Jimmy Dickens spent their peak years operating under the 26 appearence rule. It’s been gone for a long time, but not THAT long. It never affected Vince Gill but the generation before him felt its affect

  3. Paul W Dennis
    February 11, 2007 at 3:03 pm Permalink

    It should be noted that while superstars like Eddy Arnold, Carl Smith and Webb Pierce could get away with forsaking the Opry, lesser artists needed its marketing might value. Until the end of 1958 the Billboard charts did not run more than 20 positions (often as few as ten positions)so frequently mid-level stars did not have a “record on the charts”. The Opry and clear-channel WSM kept such artists names before the listening audience during the periods of non-charting records.

    Stonewall Jackson was already a bit rural for Opry management’s tastes by 1960. He only charted 44 records and his records tended either to hit big or not hit at all.

    Stonewall Jackson was never a comedian; the kind of old timer the Opry has retained either has a large humorous element to their act (Wagoner, Dickens) or is rather more slick that Stonewall Jackson. Stonewall Jackson was a great performer, a real “Joe Lunchbucket” performer and belongs in the Country Music Hall of Fame.

  4. Brody Vercher
    February 12, 2007 at 9:30 am Permalink

    So the general consensus is that Stonewall Jackson isn’t be discriminated against by the Opry, but that his performance has suffered over the years and he isn’t selling enough tickets?

    If so, after reading all the articles I have on the suit, I tend to agree.

  5. Dave Smathers
    March 16, 2007 at 12:08 pm Permalink

    Stonewall Jackson represents the type of music that graced the state of the Ryman in the 60’s. He even cut a live album there sometime in the Late 60’s. While legally he is probably not being discriminated against because of age. He is being discriminated against because of Pete Fisher’s tastes. It would be better if they let the fans be the judge. I want to hear “Don’t Be Angry” and “Waterloo” again.

  6. dekerivers
    April 23, 2007 at 10:38 am Permalink

    Last summer I had a most pleasurable conversation with 79-year-old Charlie Louvin who just released a new CD featuring one song with Elvis Costello. Charlie also did a number of shows with Elvis Presley in the 1950’s. While backstage in southern Wisconsin as he smoked a few cigarettes and signed my guitar and autographs for folks who ambled by, he kept telling me stories about the days traveling and singing with his brother, Ira. I was very interested in his stories and he seemed to get quite nostalgic as he spoke. Many a week would end for the famous brothers as they made a mad dash from far-flung places to get back to “The Mother Church of Country Music”, the Ryman Auditorium, and their set for the Opry stage. To be a member of the Opry one had to perform 26 times a year, and was paid $15.00, a far cry from what could be made on the road. Charlie estimated that an act lost on average over $50,000 per year, but he was proud to be a part of the Opry and never complained.

    But now Louvin and others are losing their health insurance due to limited performances, as salaries from those performances are the basis for coverage from the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists. There is something so very wrong with this action by Gaylord Entertainment and what it says about one of our most remarkable slices of Americana, The Grand Ole Opry.

    This is not just another musical venue. This is about as real and authentic a slice of history as one can get about what early radio, and early country music were all about. As such, the closer one can get to the past and experience the living stars of yesterday, the more accurate is the understanding of the time when the likes of Minnie Pearl and Roy Acuff were taking the stage. None of those singers and musicians knew what the future held, but were sure they wanted to be there when that big red curtain went up. For 82 years that tradition has endured and it is mighty sad to think that some still want to be there to perform, but have been rejected due to the age factor.

    To remove some of the living past at the Opry in order to bring on the latest singer with tight jeans and a cowboy hat is just real sad. I admit to being a bit of a purist on the issue, but there is a huge gulf between the likes of Little Jimmy Dickens and the latest singer today with a massive PR effort. It comes down to showmanship and on-stage talent. Having said that the old-timers are still the best.

  7. Bobby G Patterson Carrollton,Ga
    April 25, 2007 at 2:45 pm Permalink

    Just wanted to add that I’m really sad about this whole ordeal with Stonewall Jackson and Charlie Louvin. We all know that the old timers won’t live forever and that Gaylord won’t last forever either.
    Gaylord should give these older performers what they deserve for the sacrifice made by them to make the Grand Ole Opry what it is today. Do the right thing and save all the bad publicity and keep up your part of the deal.

  8. Mack Sirois
    May 5, 2007 at 5:55 pm Permalink

    There remains an old adage in country music: “remember to go home with the one who brung you”. It seems that Mr. Fisher is unmindful of that fundamental bit of philosophy. It is too bad and in the end the Opry will suffer from that omission.

    As a long time country music fan I am saddened by the failure of the Opry to sustain its support of the many senior performers of classic country music.

  9. Todd Raymond
    August 16, 2007 at 8:18 pm Permalink

    While I scratch my head with some of the younger acts the opry peppers in their weekly mix, I truly believe the opry will die without it. There is still viable, older acts on the opry; Waggoner, Seely, Dickens, Jim Ed…The ones who have ‘lost it’, much like Jackson, need to be removed from the line-up or their number of appearances reduced just as opry management is doing. Stonewall has had a history of suing in the past, so it lessens the validity of his case.

  10. Chris
    September 8, 2007 at 3:25 pm Permalink

    Maybe Stonewall’s time has passed in terms of being current with todays tastes but he has been a solid
    artist for many years and a pure country performer. If
    indeed Fisher did make that remark of not wanting any grey hairs on the opry stage then he has turned his back on the traditionalists who help build the country industry there is today.

  11. JIM KIRK - CRETE, ILL.
    September 28, 2007 at 7:16 pm Permalink

    SEVERAL OF US TRAVELED FROM CHICAGO AND MICHIGAN, TO SEE MR. JACKSON IN CONCERT IN MID-AUGUST, IN SOUTHERN INDIANA. YES, HE’S SLOWED DOWN. BUT, HIS VOICE IS STILL STRONG AND HIS SONGS ARE AS GOOD AS EVER, HE SANG FOR AN HOUR AND HIS VOICE NEVER BROKE ONCE. THAT WAS A NIGHT I WOULDN’T TAKE ANYTHING FOR. (BY THE WAY, I PLAY AND SING HIS MUSIC OFTEN). HOWEVER IT’S THE FIRST TIME I EVER SAW HIM IN CONCERT OR SHOOK HIS HAND

  12. Doug Bennett
    October 21, 2007 at 9:37 pm Permalink

    Like most everyone else, I don’t know all the facts of this issue, but I can tell you a few things. I have been a country music fan (and I mean a serious fan) all of my life, starting back in the mid 50s, and I remember all of Stonewall’s big hits, and his not so big (but still good) ones. He is as real as it gets, and is what it is (or used to be) all about, before the bean-counting suits took over. The Pete Fishers of the world have ruined it all - tore down Opryland Park, pretty much killed everything else in Nashville, except for the Opry, and they are working hard to kill it too. I am not opposed to change, when it is change for the better, but the Fishers of the world have only changed country music to match what Rock was (and may still be)-six months at the top and then forgotten. One question for you Mr. Fisher, and for all of Gaylord - if you hate the music as much as it appears (you tore down the park, you have closed down most of the rest of the Nashville entertainment scene exept for the 20s and 30s crowds, you even tried to get WSM out of the country music business), why in the *&^$# did you get into this business. Please do us all a favor and get out of it!!!

  13. Sharon K
    October 26, 2007 at 8:33 pm Permalink

    Todays’ top 40 acts may have forgotten the ones who paved the way for them, but the many fans of traditional country music have not. Even if Stonewall Jackson couldn’t sing a lick (which he can as I promoted a concert featuring him this summer)I believe many people would buy an opry ticket just to see him in person. It sure doesn’t hurt the younger crowd to get a little exposure to a country legend and have a lesson in what real country music is all about. Hopefully the Opry suits will realize that without the rich history of the entertainers whom are still with us, they wouldn’t even have a job.

  14. Stagg Lee
    November 25, 2007 at 2:33 pm Permalink

    This year alone we lost Del Reeves, Porter Wagoner, Hank Thompson and others. It breaks my heart to read stories like this. These great people made what the Opry is today. One of my fondest wishes was to go to the Opry, but I’ve changed my mind. I know I’m not the only one who thinks like that. The best are gone already. Mr Jackson, I hope you win the lawsuit.

  15. Sonny
    January 10, 2008 at 11:23 am Permalink

    Good luck Stonewall, but I wish you would just leave the Opry to it’s own demize. You are so much better than they are. Country entertainers such as yoruself made the Opry, “The Opry”. But what is it anymore? Dirty looking, sloppy dressed, singers that HAVE to have a studio with all it’s enhancers to sound even half way descent.
    Most of them have ZERO talent. Their band members look like drug users with their dirty looking clothes, long hair, and guitars hanging down around their knees. It is so disgusting that I can not watch it. It’s easy to see where the management is placing it’s priorities. It’s with the young entertainers that draw groupies. But Nashville operates on throw away singers now. There just isn’t any longevity there. The Opry use to have an audience that came back time after time. But not any longer. So the enevitable is going to happen, the audience will slowly dwindle along with the nothing entertainers. I am a retired Country entertainer. I know what I’m talking about.

  16. Gerald
    January 20, 2008 at 1:39 pm Permalink

    Good for Stonewall, I have watched for many years the Opry on Television and Have attended several live performances at the Ryman and the new Opry house. I will never forget the first time I attended and saw the great Roy Acuff on stage. What a thrill!! A big part of the thrill of the Opry is the opportunity to see history every performance a mix of new and old country. I agree the performers now seem to be so unprofessional. What ever happened to dressing, looking and acting like a professional. They did do something right recently when they inducted Mel Tillis into the Opry family. There is a class act!!!! His band dressed, played and conducted themselves like true performing professionals not like a bunch of street panhandlers around the corner on broadway. Let the Opry show some class and keep history alive!!!

  17. sandy frederick
    February 2, 2008 at 10:29 am Permalink

    Why not let the “OLD TIMERS” have the Ryman Auditorium. Lets see how much they bring in? $$$$ I sure know where I would go. It would be where a person could hear and understand the words, carry a tune and not use cuss words.
    I’m not gray yet but getting there.
    Sandy

  18. KathyP
    February 2, 2008 at 1:58 pm Permalink

    County music has probably been the only American music form that values its history. But now it sounds like the the suits have thrown that value to the wind. How soon before the fans will follow? Has it happened already.

  19. John
    July 8, 2008 at 6:56 pm Permalink

    Believe me as an Opry viewer and listener for the past 4 decades Stonewall Jackson definately has a case and he`s right. Not only is Stonewall being discriminated against but also Opry members Tom T. Hall, Billy Grammer, Jeanne Pruett, Hank Locklin, and George Jones among others 2 of which are Hall Of Famers. All have grey hair. Bill Anderson would`ve been added to the list but he outsmarted Pete Fisher by dying his hair dark. Pete Fisher and Gaylord Entertainment should be ashamed and answer for this. Keep fightin` Stonewall!!

  20. Rickie Brown
    August 25, 2008 at 12:43 pm Permalink

    Wo Was Stonewall Jackson Steel Guitar player during the 60’s

  21. Rickie Brown
    August 25, 2008 at 12:44 pm Permalink

    sorry for the spelling it is who was Stonewall Jackson’s steel guitar player during the 60’s

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