Obama’s still better than McCain though, he’s like Bush Term #3

Thanks, Jim. I wish politics focused more on the issues, then one way or the other, things might get done. As it is now, it’s kinda been reduced to sportslike fanboyism and ultimately meaningless rhetoric. It fires me up like anyone else, but I try to keep from participating in it. I respect your opinion as well and I’m glad we can discuss things civilly.

Anyways, like Ben said, this has gotten pretty derailed and I’m sure people don’t come here for their political news. Everyone has had a chance to get their piece in, so if anyone wants to continue, start up a thread on the forum.

but it’s important to note that espousing white power (especially in the 60’s) is not at all the same as espousing black power. Since whites had control while blacks were disadvantaged (disadvantaged = their underepresentation in universities, professions such as doctors, engineers, lawyers, politicians, and their overrepresentation in prisons and death row, their average incomes, their average lifespans, and their infant mortality rates) white power essentially boiled down to a avocation for a continuance of deep social injustices that were already present, whereas the black power movement was a reaction to the unjust social system whites had unquestionable created.

It’s insincere and inaccurate to say “well, Racism is racism, Rev. Wright = KKK leaders.” KKK leaders argued for a continued system of societal injustice based on the belief that black people are inferior because of their race.

From what I can tell, I’m no scholar on the subject, Rev. Wright argued against a continued system of societal injustice that he felt was perpetrated by white people. Why white people? well it was NOT on account that they were inferior because of their race, but rather because historically white people have oppressed/conquered/lied to/enslaved dark skinned people, including people of african decent, even up until Rev. Wright’s lifetime.

So yeah, if a politician went to a white power church, a church that advocated continuing societal injustices on the basis of dark skinned peolpe’s racial inferiority, I think that people would dislike that.

If a politician was a minority and went to a church that advocated helping other minorities become established in order to advance the wellbeing of the minority community and reverse the effects of a very real historical oppression by the white community, no, I don’t think people would mind all that much.

and Obama’s place in the polls illustrates that.

Reverend Wright was ‘preachin’ to the choir.’ MANY people who feel underrepresented feel that way. They don’t have to be black. They can be the poor, homosexual, women, native Americans, etc. It may have been race-based but that sentiment is felt by more than just the black folks. I don’t like anyone taking that particular stance because it preys on a victim mentality to get a point across.

Razor X, James Carville is as bad for the democrats as Sean Hannity is for the republicans. They may both be more ‘centrist’ in terms of ideas but they both espouse really horrible rhetoric like that (though I watched him and he didn’t exactly say there’d be riots last night).

Tell that to James Carville. He’s suggesting that there will be riots if Obama loses.