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  1. Kelly
    February 8, 2008 at 10:32 am Permalink

    This dude at the Austin Chronicle made a point while at the same time sounding stupid. “Texas Music” isn’t a genre and should’nt be referred to as a genre. We get forced to label music that way, yet often the classifications seem to not truly fit the song/artist that its attempting to pigeonhole. “Alternative Rock” has become as mainstream as McDonalds and has spawned dozens of sub-genres such as Emo, Screamo, Grunge, Post-Grunge, etc.. People have said “Alt-Country” is dying ever since the split up of Uncle Tupelo, which wasnt near as big then as they have become posthumously. The fact is, most of, if not all the artists that get labeled “Alt-Country” or “Texas Country” despise the tag as they feel it limits them. It is tons of critics over time who have given that name and many of those same critics are now saying that something that the artist never claimed has lived, is dying. Bloggers like me get forced to use restricitve terms such as “Roots Rock” and “Red Dirt”, because if we decide to simply call Jackson Taylor or Jason Boland “Country” (which they are. period), then plenty of ignorant folks decide that “country” isnt the right label since that includes “nashville” and they’re not from nashville, thats for sell-outs. its a vicious cycle….

  2. Chris N.
    February 8, 2008 at 11:20 am Permalink

    ‘Chicago 17′? Oh, sweet merciful lord.

  3. Lucas
    February 8, 2008 at 1:31 pm Permalink

    If at first you don’t succeed, try and try and try again. I like Shaver myself.

  4. SW
    February 8, 2008 at 1:33 pm Permalink

    Labels aside, Owen Temple’s new CD leaves much to be desired.

    Dear Rascal Flatts,
    What marketing genius pawned you off as country? A quick concise reply would be greatly appreciated.

    Regards,
    SW

  5. Peter Kohan
    February 8, 2008 at 1:43 pm Permalink

    I’m with Chris N. on this – Chicago 17 is shite. Admitting a love of Peter Cetera never wins ANYONE any credibility points.

    Similarly, a love of John Mayer wins no love from me.

  6. Chris N.
    February 8, 2008 at 2:07 pm Permalink

    I’m still wrapping my head around it. I never thought the sentence “We had never heard music crafted like that before and it made us want to make music” could conceivably be applied to ‘Chicago 17.’

  7. Brady Vercher
    February 8, 2008 at 2:14 pm Permalink

    How ’bout the fact that they mentioned 6 or 7 artists as inspiration and not a single one of them is country. That problem also seems to be reflected in those celebrity playlists where country singers put together a list of artists that aren’t even country.

  8. Kelly
    February 8, 2008 at 2:34 pm Permalink

    When i read that, it made me want to shout, “REALLY??? NO WAY!!! I’M IN SHOCK!!!”, I said it earlier about the writer making a point, but sounding stupid as it wasnt the point he meant to make…HELLO!!!! Thats like Barry Bonds telling reporters, “Man, my head is twice the size as it used to be and my stats are growing even quicker than that, and hey, I have a ton of syringes right here…”

  9. mikeky
    February 8, 2008 at 2:48 pm Permalink

    seriously. ‘chicago 17′? not only is ‘chicago 17′ an affront to civilized society (mainly because it followed ‘chicago 1′ through ‘chicago 16′, but apparently it has given us rascal flatts. peter cetera, you are on notice.

  10. Charlie Mack ( First outta the Limo )
    February 8, 2008 at 4:25 pm Permalink

    I get to hang with Billy Joe on a regular basis down here in Texas and there is no one more deserving of winning a Grammy this year than him, especially with this record. He is a class act & the moment he steps on that red carpet, people should be kissing his ass and thanking him for his contributions to music & the world of songwriting. If they try to throw him out, I hope he gives it to em where they don’t want it….

    But of course the spotlight on Country stars at the Grammys will be on the 16 year old Taylor Swift midriff, the color of Kenny Chesney’s flip flops, and the fagtastic wardrobe that the Rascal dudes will be wearing. Way to represent country music homos.

  11. Chris N.
    February 8, 2008 at 4:32 pm Permalink

    I should add that the first few Chicago records — before they ditched the horns and Peter Cetera took control — are pretty badass.

  12. Kelly
    February 8, 2008 at 5:54 pm Permalink

    Badass and Chicago should only be in the same sentence when discussing italian beef sandwiches!

  13. Cindy
    February 8, 2008 at 6:40 pm Permalink

    Early Chicago did rock. Boy, did I play the grooves out of those records growing up. Its fine to like music other than country, but jeez, they couldn’t mention anyone from the country world?

  14. Rick
    February 8, 2008 at 7:48 pm Permalink

    Lost Highway confirms that Laura Bryna is thankfully not the next big thing in country music. I don’t mind when average artists release new CDs as I just ignore them. Its when fine albums by true talents like Ashley Monroe, Sarah Buxton, and Susan Haynes don’t get released on CD that I get really annoyed. Smaller labels feel compelled to release even bad CDs in hopes of recouping some of their production costs. Its at the big labels, where new artists have to chart a “hit” single before release, that fine debut albums get shelved…..

    The comments from the airheads that comprise Rascally Farts don’t surprise me one bit. They are a pop-rock band pure and simple, which is sadly where mainstream country radio is headed more and more each day…

    Billy Joe Shaver better not be packing when he shows up for the Grammy’s, as all hell will break loose in Tinseltown….

    And as for Texas alt. country declining, I just think its evolved into Miranda Lambert, Jack Ingram and Pat Green who have taken it mainstream. As long as traditionalists like Brennen Leigh, Amber Digby and Sunny Sweeney keep popping up in Texas, I’m content.

  15. Matt B.
    February 8, 2008 at 7:48 pm Permalink

    Don’t forget that Jay of RF produced the most recent Chicago record. Possibly it was him talking and the other 2 members happen to be ‘inspired’ by someone in their own genre.

    Peter, why do you not like John Mayer, aside from the ‘wimp-rock’ label he gets?

  16. Cindy
    February 8, 2008 at 8:14 pm Permalink

    Hey Charlie Mack-
    Good on you for your comments on the music. I agree with you. But
    do you really need to refer to derogatory terms of sexuality when discussing things?
    I come to this blog for intelligent conversation-and to learn about music I want to know about (I live in the Northeast-their idea of country here is rather narrow, limited to a clear channel station.) I like what you say musically, but some of your comments still make me wince. As a rock refugee, I’m sensitive to the stereotypes that country fans get stuck with. I often get stuck with. I am often saying “Yeah, is country, but have an open mind..”

    How does everyone else feel?

  17. Peter Kohan
    February 8, 2008 at 9:26 pm Permalink

    Matt – Because I find John Mayer interminably boooooring. In between him and Jack Johnson and Dave Matthews I just don’t know why people insist on being bored by their music.

  18. Lynn
    February 8, 2008 at 9:43 pm Permalink

    (I know this is a country blog, but…) Peter, I’m with you on Jack Johnson and Dave Matthews. I’m a CA beach girl, but I still yawned my way through a Jack Johnson concert. However, I got dragged to a John Mayer concert by a friend. I was not a fan at the time. If I heard “My Body is a Wonderland” one more time I was going to scream. However, he is awesome in concert. I didn’t know much of his music and I was enthralled. He is truly amazingly talented on the guitar and puts on a fantastic show. Ignore his CDs if you want, but I suggest catching him in concert.

    Also, thanks for your comment Cindy! I’m with you.

  19. Kelly
    February 9, 2008 at 8:22 am Permalink

    I dig Jack Johnson and Dave Matthews (not John Mayer so much). While I am not angry in a “phil’s phriends” kind of way, I feel that the above “early chicago” lovers are the ones that are content with sheer boredom in the musical choices. I know, it’s all relative, but it is kind of funny that someone defending anything that Chicago has produced has the nerve to call others out for choosing “boring” music. I mean, Chis N. even called some of their stuff “badass”. That’s like calling “soul-survivor” era Michael Bolton Heavy Metal just cuz he had long hair….

  20. Kelly
    February 9, 2008 at 8:23 am Permalink

    sorry…i meant “soul provider” era Michael Bolton…I guess I am glad that I wasnt too well versed in his back catalog…

  21. Cindy
    February 9, 2008 at 8:26 am Permalink

    Thanks, Lynn. I appreciate the support. And I just saw five grammar mistakes in my post.
    I hereby resolve to always hit preview, and read what I wrote! I need more sleep!

  22. Matt B.
    February 9, 2008 at 9:48 am Permalink

    Peter, I like all the artists you mentioned but haven’t been too excited to get either DMB or Jack Johnson’s newest material. They are literally re-recording themselves at this point.

    As for Mayer, he’s way more interesting than most ‘pop singers’ are.

  23. Peter Kohan
    February 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm Permalink

    I’m not saying Mayer has no talent. He’s a heck of a guitar player and musician. I just don’t find him a compelling vocalist or songwriter at all. But people like who they like. I have plenty of artists and songs I like people would find horrible or strange or cheesy.

  24. Chris N.
    February 10, 2008 at 12:02 am Permalink

    If you don’t think early Chicago is badass, you haven’t heard early Chicago. ‘Chicago 17′ is so awful precisely because it’s a rejection of everything early Chicago was about.

  25. Kelly
    February 10, 2008 at 7:19 am Permalink

    …or, I just don’t agree with how bad those album’s asses are….

    I know we all like to debate music and disagreeing can be fun most of the time, but lets stop short of assuming that others haven’t heard something simply cuz one doesnt agree with your opinion, shall we? I only diss the stuff I have actually listened to, as I wouldnt be able to comment otherwise.

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