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	<title>Comments on: Kellie Pickler Hurt By Radio Intern&#8217;s False Accusations</title>
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		<title>By: Cassie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith Urban&#039;s Everybody is a #1 song.  It is not only relatable, the way he delivers it, it finds its way into your heart.  He brings this song alive in a beautiful way and makes the listener believe he is actually there for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith Urban&#8217;s Everybody is a #1 song.  It is not only relatable, the way he delivers it, it finds its way into your heart.  He brings this song alive in a beautiful way and makes the listener believe he is actually there for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Baron Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baron Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt: I mean the former. And Wilco abandoned any alt.country leanings 5 releases ago and Son Volt is heading in the same direction.

Growing up in the Texas &#039;burbs there are two genres you become familiar with - country and heavy metal. Metal currently offers many more sub-genres than country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_genres) yet metal fans have no problem speaking of all these sub-genres under heavy metal.

Part of the problem, as I see it, are the &quot;natural&quot; taxonomy forking that has occurred - Country, western, bluegrass - and now there an effort to apply a dominate categorization after the fact. That&#039;s much harder then starting out with a dominate category (heavy metal) to build off of. 

Brody - Americana might give you a warm fuzzy feeling, but Hank III and th&#039; Legendary Shake Shakers don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: I mean the former. And Wilco abandoned any alt.country leanings 5 releases ago and Son Volt is heading in the same direction.</p>
<p>Growing up in the Texas &#8216;burbs there are two genres you become familiar with &#8211; country and heavy metal. Metal currently offers many more sub-genres than country (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_genres" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_genres</a>) yet metal fans have no problem speaking of all these sub-genres under heavy metal.</p>
<p>Part of the problem, as I see it, are the &#8220;natural&#8221; taxonomy forking that has occurred &#8211; Country, western, bluegrass &#8211; and now there an effort to apply a dominate categorization after the fact. That&#8217;s much harder then starting out with a dominate category (heavy metal) to build off of. </p>
<p>Brody &#8211; Americana might give you a warm fuzzy feeling, but Hank III and th&#8217; Legendary Shake Shakers don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:  Acts like Wilco pretty much take the country out of Alt-country, which was my point in the first place.

Baron:  You mean most of what&#039;s being produced in mainstream country, or most of what&#039;s being produced, including rap and hip-hop garbage? If the latter, I agree with you. However, that&#039;s not exactly a strong endorsement of cow-punk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:  Acts like Wilco pretty much take the country out of Alt-country, which was my point in the first place.</p>
<p>Baron:  You mean most of what&#8217;s being produced in mainstream country, or most of what&#8217;s being produced, including rap and hip-hop garbage? If the latter, I agree with you. However, that&#8217;s not exactly a strong endorsement of cow-punk.</p>
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		<title>By: Brody Vercher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brody Vercher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;Americana&quot; gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cow-punk, psychobilly, pop-country, countrypolitan, etc.; join the discussion and let us know what you think about the various genre labels. Does one appeal more than another to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hollerin Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollerin Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron

I couldn&#039;t agree with you more on the Americana label.  Americana seems to most peolpe to be code for inaccesible music that isn&#039;t relevant (which of course its not, the Americana chart is full of really rad people).

I also completely agree that we can&#039;t relinquish the term &quot;country&quot; to the pop country coming out today.  Its not as if this situation is without precedent, in the early 70&#039;s you had people like Olivia Newton John and John Denver dominating the charts and award shows,  but of course Willie and Waylon didn&#039;t throw their hands up and abandon ship (though nowadays it seems like Willie has taken an &quot;if you can&#039;t beat &#039;em, join &#039;em&quot; approach)

As far as the hyphen question goes, though it would be helpful, I think its unneccesary.  Country has always been able to accomadate diversity. Hank, Buck, Willie and Cash present a pretty broad range of sounds and would require quite a bit of hyphens to properly label them, but country works just fine.

Country music is not like &quot;pop&quot; or even &quot;rock and roll&quot; fundamentally in that even though like those genres it is based around a popular music industry, unlike those genres country music is a form of &quot;folk&quot; music, or music that emphasizes tradition.  To abandon the term &quot;country&quot; music would be to close the book on a great musical tradition and relegate true american country music to something of a musuem piece, interesting and worthwhile, but not alive, present, and working in peoples lives today.</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more on the Americana label.  Americana seems to most peolpe to be code for inaccesible music that isn&#8217;t relevant (which of course its not, the Americana chart is full of really rad people).</p>
<p>I also completely agree that we can&#8217;t relinquish the term &#8220;country&#8221; to the pop country coming out today.  Its not as if this situation is without precedent, in the early 70&#8217;s you had people like Olivia Newton John and John Denver dominating the charts and award shows,  but of course Willie and Waylon didn&#8217;t throw their hands up and abandon ship (though nowadays it seems like Willie has taken an &#8220;if you can&#8217;t beat &#8216;em, join &#8216;em&#8221; approach)</p>
<p>As far as the hyphen question goes, though it would be helpful, I think its unneccesary.  Country has always been able to accomadate diversity. Hank, Buck, Willie and Cash present a pretty broad range of sounds and would require quite a bit of hyphens to properly label them, but country works just fine.</p>
<p>Country music is not like &#8220;pop&#8221; or even &#8220;rock and roll&#8221; fundamentally in that even though like those genres it is based around a popular music industry, unlike those genres country music is a form of &#8220;folk&#8221; music, or music that emphasizes tradition.  To abandon the term &#8220;country&#8221; music would be to close the book on a great musical tradition and relegate true american country music to something of a musuem piece, interesting and worthwhile, but not alive, present, and working in peoples lives today.</p>
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		<title>By: Baron Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baron Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, this is a current topic for me. I belong on the communications council for a major Americana Organization and it was recently asked &quot;How do we not come off as old timey music and get other people (read YOUNG people) interested.&quot; I&#039;d say step one, stop using terms like Americana that already sound sepia drenched. It&#039;s a branding problem, but when In remind people that Merle Haggard and George Jones were just as hell-raising as the Sex Pistols or that David Allen Coe is as gangsta as Tupac ever was, it puts the music into a current and wider frame of reference. It also instills it with a cool factor it needs as to appeal to a younger demo. Cash is sick, yo! 

 I disagree that pop-country has corned the market of the country moniker and think relinquishing the title is a disservice to the greats that created the genre. Country, like metal and electronica, has mutated and evolved into so many differing sub-genres that I wonder if the term &quot;country&quot; can ever be used without a hyphen? 

Matt- I&#039;d put the &quot;bad music&quot; of Caddle (cow punk) and the Reverend Horton Heat (psychobilly) against most of what&#039;s being produced today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, this is a current topic for me. I belong on the communications council for a major Americana Organization and it was recently asked &#8220;How do we not come off as old timey music and get other people (read YOUNG people) interested.&#8221; I&#8217;d say step one, stop using terms like Americana that already sound sepia drenched. It&#8217;s a branding problem, but when In remind people that Merle Haggard and George Jones were just as hell-raising as the Sex Pistols or that David Allen Coe is as gangsta as Tupac ever was, it puts the music into a current and wider frame of reference. It also instills it with a cool factor it needs as to appeal to a younger demo. Cash is sick, yo! </p>
<p> I disagree that pop-country has corned the market of the country moniker and think relinquishing the title is a disservice to the greats that created the genre. Country, like metal and electronica, has mutated and evolved into so many differing sub-genres that I wonder if the term &#8220;country&#8221; can ever be used without a hyphen? </p>
<p>Matt- I&#8217;d put the &#8220;bad music&#8221; of Caddle (cow punk) and the Reverend Horton Heat (psychobilly) against most of what&#8217;s being produced today.</p>
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		<title>By: Hollerin Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollerin Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well historically &quot;country rock&quot; wasn&#039;t really a generic term, but was used to described bands like The Byrds (sweethearts of the rodeo and beyond), The Flying Burrito Brothers and the Gram Parsons solo stuff, Poco, Commander Cody, and so on that combined country with real rock and roll (read: not just uptempo, guitar driven pop ala Garth, who I happen to like).  

Naturally when I say Rock and Roll, I mean the Rock and Roll of the 50&#039;s of 60&#039;s, or Rock and roll that actually sounds like American roots music as opposed to like Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin or Poison or Pearl Jam or Slayer who all may &quot;rock&quot; but who don&#039;t play classic &quot;rock and roll&quot; music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well historically &#8220;country rock&#8221; wasn&#8217;t really a generic term, but was used to described bands like The Byrds (sweethearts of the rodeo and beyond), The Flying Burrito Brothers and the Gram Parsons solo stuff, Poco, Commander Cody, and so on that combined country with real rock and roll (read: not just uptempo, guitar driven pop ala Garth, who I happen to like).  </p>
<p>Naturally when I say Rock and Roll, I mean the Rock and Roll of the 50&#8217;s of 60&#8217;s, or Rock and roll that actually sounds like American roots music as opposed to like Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin or Poison or Pearl Jam or Slayer who all may &#8220;rock&#8221; but who don&#8217;t play classic &#8220;rock and roll&#8221; music.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Malec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Malec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alt. Country has a pretty strict guideline, I think--acts like Wilco, SonVolt, and so on, whereas Americana leans more to the songwriter type stuff, the Kelly Willis, the Patty Griffin, etc. &quot;Country-Rock&quot; as Matt points out, is utterly arbitrary. What the hell is country rock? I remember, back in the 90s, people complaining that Garth was &quot;too rock&quot;. Go back and listen to his records now...he&#039;s a freakin&#039; traditionalist compared to artists of today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alt. Country has a pretty strict guideline, I think&#8211;acts like Wilco, SonVolt, and so on, whereas Americana leans more to the songwriter type stuff, the Kelly Willis, the Patty Griffin, etc. &#8220;Country-Rock&#8221; as Matt points out, is utterly arbitrary. What the hell is country rock? I remember, back in the 90s, people complaining that Garth was &#8220;too rock&#8221;. Go back and listen to his records now&#8230;he&#8217;s a freakin&#8217; traditionalist compared to artists of today!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt C.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the exception of rockabilly and possibly roots (really a retroactive designation), country, western, and country-western are much more identifiable genres than any of the labels that you mentioned. Alt-country and country-rock are primarily just whitewash labels invented to pilfer fans from one genre or the other. Cow-punk and psychobilly don&#039;t have enough practitioners to bear mentioning, and in my opinion, &quot;bad music&quot; is a more appropriate label for those sub-sub-genres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the exception of rockabilly and possibly roots (really a retroactive designation), country, western, and country-western are much more identifiable genres than any of the labels that you mentioned. Alt-country and country-rock are primarily just whitewash labels invented to pilfer fans from one genre or the other. Cow-punk and psychobilly don&#8217;t have enough practitioners to bear mentioning, and in my opinion, &#8220;bad music&#8221; is a more appropriate label for those sub-sub-genres.</p>
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