Josh Gracin – “Unbelievable (Ann Marie)”

Brady Vercher | August 14th, 2008 Email Share

Josh Gracin Songwriters: Josh Gracin

The fourth single from Josh Gracin’s sophmore album, We Weren’t Crazy, falters in the same way that so many of today’s love songs do. It’s generic and devoid of imagination.

Despite initial marketing that touted the album as deep and personal, “Unbelievable (Ann Marie)” is anything but deep or personal. Sure, the name of Gracin’s wife is tacked onto the title, explicitly making her the subject of the love that Gracin croons about, but the lyric has been written in the same way a million times before. Take this line for instance: “Got your breath on my skin and the taste of your kiss.” How many times has the same sentiment been expressed in the same way throughout the past decade? The entire song is littered with the same kind of banal lines that could have been lifted from any generic love song. Where are the love songs with imagination like “Natural High?”

Truely, there’s nothing unique about the vocal, lyric, production, or melody. None of those properties are exceptionally poor, but as a whole, it’s exceptionally bland. It’s not simply enough to go through the motions and put together a technically competent song; without a distinguishable characteristic, it’s simply uninteresting.

And how, exactly, is something like “Unbelievable” supposed to advance Gracin’s career? He has no defining characteristics himself and this song doesn’t do anything to help remedy that, causing him to blend in with a crowd of middle-of-the-road artists. Granted, the previous single, “We Weren’t Crazy,” did make the top 10, but it did so quietly, and who could honestly describe it as a hit?

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Listen: Josh Gracin – “Unbelievable (Ann Marie)”

  1. Jim Malec
    August 14, 2008 at 8:31 am Permalink

    Here we go again with hit/not-hit discussion…

    I agree with this review–I probably would have been a bit tougher. The song is like water.

  2. #1
    August 14, 2008 at 8:32 am Permalink

    music aint even country

  3. Sam G.
    August 14, 2008 at 8:32 am Permalink

    Can I make a request that you all include the names of the songwriters when reviewing singles? I’d like to know if Gracin wrote this, because I’ve seen a few singers perform “intensely personal” songs that were written for them by a couple of Nashville pros.

    I’m guessing the song started from a writer putting together all the “un-” words he could think of and building the song around that. Too bad he left off unremarkable and unoriginal.

    That said, I can see this thing having a future as a first-dance wedding song.

  4. Brady Vercher
    August 14, 2008 at 8:39 am Permalink

    Sam, we typically try to include the songwriters names, I just overlooked it for this review. But yeah, Gracin did write this song. Thanks for the reminder.

  5. Katie
    August 14, 2008 at 9:18 am Permalink

    I thought the wife’s name thing was cute initially, but it is hard to see it as anything other than calculated when the lyrics are so generic. (And when there’s such a premium these days on men singing songs about how much they love being married.)

    That said, I think there’s a much better love song on the album that he wrote — “Invisible,” and it’s more explicitly about the day-in, day-out kind of love.

  6. Stormy
    August 14, 2008 at 9:48 am Permalink

    From my outsider perspective, for me a “hit” is something that my sister or my friend who is a very casual listener of country don’t have to ask me the name of a year later. Or else a song that gets played on the mainstream enough for me to actually overhear without having to look up.

  7. Bobby
    August 14, 2008 at 10:06 am Permalink

    I agree 100% with this review. Gracin’s voice sounds a bit stronger than normal, but otherwise this is utter blandness. How can people write something so gratingly cliché and not realize it?!

    When it comes to Gracin doing love ballads, I don’t think he’ll ever be able to top “Stay with Me (Brass Bed)”. Sure, it had a clumsy parenthetical title as well, but the unusual 6/8, minor-key melody, mandolin runs, and haunting string section made up for it nicely. That, and the lyrics at least tried for *some* originaility lyrically.

  8. Matt B.
    August 14, 2008 at 11:26 am Permalink

    We may not know how to quantify “We Weren’t Crazy” as a hit but it has been on the charts for 44 weeks and over half of those were in the Top 25 thus making it a big hit for Gracin and the songwriters. Gracin can tour with a hit song under his belt and the songwriters and publishers reaped the benefits of a slow climb. As for its long-standing status as a hit? Well, that probably won’t happen. Still a hit’s a hit, it’s just not a particularly memorable one (as are 90% of the songs released in ANY year).

    As for this one, I expect it to rise up the charts due to the time of year it’s coming out. That doesn’t mean it will sell Gracin many albums.

  9. leeann
    August 14, 2008 at 11:40 am Permalink

    I really agree with your review, Brady. At some points, like Jim said, you were even nicer than I feel about Gracin’s music at this point (or at any point in his career, really).

    Someone put this song in the category of a song about loving to be married. I would argue that this song doesn’t even go *that* far. It’s so generic that it doesn’t even have to have anything to do with marriage, just lust, boring lust at that.:)

  10. Brady Vercher
    August 14, 2008 at 11:50 am Permalink

    Personal Note: Need to work on being meaner.

    I’d be inclined to agree with you Leeann about Gracin’s career, but I did like “Stay With Me (Brass Bed).”

  11. leeann
    August 14, 2008 at 12:05 pm Permalink

    Interestingly, I really hated that song too.:)

    I guess the only one that I allow in my extensive rotation is “Nothin’ To Lose”, though I still prefer Marcel’s version.

  12. Matt B.
    August 14, 2008 at 12:10 pm Permalink

    Leeann,

    I prefer Marcel’s version too and still wonder why radio doesn’t give him a fair chance. Guess he’s ‘too different’ so far.

  13. leeann
    August 14, 2008 at 12:59 pm Permalink

    I suppose Marcel is plagued with the fate of many songwriters who simply become singer/songwriters rather than commercial artists. I think Darrell Scott’s versions of his own songs are often times more appealing than the commercial recordings of them (though I’m admittedly a big Scott fan), but he’s stuck in the background like so many other songwriters.

  14. Brody Vercher
    August 14, 2008 at 1:07 pm Permalink

    Regarding Marcel, he’s probably plagued by his name more than anything else, but then again, if this song is representative of his material, there’s the problem.

  15. Brody Vercher
    August 14, 2008 at 1:11 pm Permalink

    My bad, I thought you guys were saying Marcel sang this song instead of the other one that you clearly mentioned. Carry on.

  16. CraigR.
    August 14, 2008 at 2:55 pm Permalink

    When will Josh Gracin’s fifteen minutes end? He was carried on American Idol by the fact that he was in the military. Now we have to suffer him for how long? I don’t think any of his songs have depth or meaning. I think he tries very hard to sound like Garth Brooks. The trouble is that he ain’t Brooks. Outside of his service to his country there is nothing of any interest here.

    Like may other male singers on the chart( Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Keith Anderson, Jimmy Wayne, Chuck Wicks, Craig Morgan, and Bucky Covington)he is being promoted as country but his voice, his talent, and his personality all beg the question is this really country? Does country really sound and look like this? And if it does where does that say about the state of country music today?

  17. Katie
    August 14, 2008 at 2:59 pm Permalink

    LeeAnn — I agree totally that it’s not clear from the lyrics that the song is about marital love. That’s why I thought adding his wife’s name made it seem calculated. (”This isn’t just a boring love song! It’s about his real wife!”)

    I’m a Marcel fan, too. I tend to think his voice is too unusual for radio’s taste. (Which is maybe also Sarah Buxton’s problem?) It’s kind of nasal and very distinctive.

  18. Jim Malec
    August 14, 2008 at 3:12 pm Permalink

    Just as a clarification, I actually think Gracin is a decent artist.

  19. Matt B.
    August 14, 2008 at 3:43 pm Permalink

    Craig R,

    You obviously haven’t heard Craig Morgan’s albums. He’s country. Luke Bryan too. Actually it’d be hard to classify any of those you listed as ‘rock’ or ‘pop’ singers. So, I guess the question is, who is country to you?

  20. Rick
    August 14, 2008 at 8:20 pm Permalink

    I’m saddened that of all the new threads added today this one has received the most action…(just kidding)

    Does Josh Gracin remind any of the rest of you of the actor David Boreanz who played the vampire “Angel” and is now Boothe on “Bones”? Hmmmm……

    I have liked some of Josh’s singles and consider him a highly competent singing “technician” (in a clinical sense), but he just doesn’t have any unique vocal characteristics to make him stand out in the crowd.

    Marcel should NOT have used a one word name and especially one that makes people think of a famous French mime! Country fans don’t appreciate that type of perceived arrogance as we prefer to nickname the artists ourselves. Memarie made the same mistake and with a last name (or is it middle?) like Gayle she was crazy not to use her full name! (As an aside: When I purchased Memarie’s self-titled album I was shocked at how she looked before her nose job! Her plastic surgeon really did a nice job…..)

  21. leeann
    August 14, 2008 at 8:49 pm Permalink

    Rick, correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Marcel’s name isn’t his fault; I think his parents are to blame for it…if blame even should be assigned. I really doubt that the guy’s name has anything to do with his lack of radio success. His last name is Chagnon, so maybe that’s why he chose to only use his first name rather than it being a matter of arrogance.

  22. Bobby
    August 14, 2008 at 10:41 pm Permalink

    I agree. If my name were Marcel Francois Chagnon, I’d just go by Marcel too. It’s better than, say, Frankie C.

    This still doesn’t explain how Dierks Bentley made it big with a name like “Dierks”, though.

  23. leeann
    August 15, 2008 at 6:04 am Permalink

    “Marcel should NOT have used a one word name and especially one that makes people think of a famous French mime! Country fans don’t appreciate that type of perceived arrogance as we prefer to nickname the artists ourselves.”

    To clarify, my point is that while I’m a fan of Marcel’s, there are probably many any number of reasons that Marcel hasn’t made it, but I don’t think that something as insignificant as his name is the cause. I don’t think country fans are quite so sensitive as to decide not to like an artist based on a name.

  24. Brody Vercher
    August 15, 2008 at 8:13 am Permalink

    It may not be the cause, but it could still play a part. It’s not uncommon for country singers to change or alter their name in some fashion. For instance:

    Hiram Williams = Hank Williams
    Ellen Muriel Deason = Kitty Wells
    Clarence Eugene Snow = Hank Snow
    J.R. Cash = Johnny Cash
    Gary Allan Herzberg = Gary Allan

    And there’s plenty of others. Even Tim and Faith go by their middle names. On top of that, I can’t think of a single country artist who’s achieved fame by using one name. To me, the name Marcel sounds like someone who would fit in the R&B or rap genres.

  25. leeann
    August 15, 2008 at 8:23 am Permalink

    Okay… I see your point… But I’m still not convinced that people think “I kinda like this Marcel guy’s music, but his name kind of sucks, so I guess I don’t really like him too much after all. How dare he go by just one name. I’m not buying that punk’s record! I think I’ll buy a Josh Gracin album instead, even if he’s dull and uninteresting. At least his name is normal.”:)

  26. Paula
    August 15, 2008 at 8:26 am Permalink

    Though she was no “superstar” or “legend”, Sylvia had a pretty good run with just one name. I still like to listen to her music.

  27. leeann
    August 15, 2008 at 8:45 am Permalink

    Oh yeah, I was going to mention Sylvia too.

    If Jewel ends up picking up, she could be another.

    What I wonder is if out of the people who haven’t made it in country music but have tried, how many of them tried to go by just one name?

    Ultimately, I know this is an unimportant subject. I’m just not convinced that Marcel’s name really is the part of him that country music fans haven’t appreciated. I suspect that it’s his odd voice and maybe even his songs, though they’ve been hits for others, just not his name. In fact, if a unique name does anything to me, though names really don’t play a factor in my musicc choices, they intrigue me.
    I suppose I’m wondering if we can think of ot

  28. Chris N.
    August 15, 2008 at 9:37 am Permalink

    I’d say Sylvia is the exception that proves the rule. Can anyone name another country artist in the last 30 years who has become famous using only one name?

    Country fans want to identify with you, and that’s hard to do if you withhold such a basic piece of information. If you met someone in your everyday life who refused to tell you their last name, you’d have to assume they don’t want to be your friend.

  29. leeann
    August 15, 2008 at 9:54 am Permalink

    Hmmm…I never intend to be friends with the artists I listen to, just like with presidential candidates.

    It’s not

  30. leeann
    August 15, 2008 at 9:57 am Permalink

    But like I said, in reverse, can anyone think of a country artist who hasn’t become famous because they’ve only used one name? I’m thinking that not many have given it a try. I don’t think that one name is going to ruin someone’s chances of a successful career.

  31. Matt B.
    August 15, 2008 at 10:24 am Permalink

    I suppose Marcel could’ve used his middle Name to call himself “Marc Francis” or something. But then people would probably say “Oh, he spells his name with a “C” he’s not normal….

  32. Thomas
    August 15, 2008 at 11:07 am Permalink

    “marcel – the gay men’s-hairdresser” is a popular weekly morning comedy- feature at our local radio station.
    perhaps, this name would work better…say in pantomime?

  33. Matt B.
    August 15, 2008 at 11:56 am Permalink

    Thomas,

    I assume they use that name because it’s French and all French people are gay right? Pretty standard-fare morning zoo bs.

  34. Craig R.
    August 15, 2008 at 12:18 pm Permalink

    For Matt B:
    I understand why you would think Craig Morgan and Luke Bryan are country – but singing about being a redneck or ” a country man” or riding in trucks with a southern accent doesn’t make you country. Listen to Craig Morgan’s recent song or Bryan’s “All My Friends Say”. That ain’t country-that is marketing.

  35. Matt B.
    August 15, 2008 at 12:55 pm Permalink

    One or two songs out of a person’s catalog doesn’t make them NOT country. I guess Lee Ann Womack isn’t country because she recorded two or three ‘pop’ songs? Ditto Gary Allen (”Best I Ever Had” and “The One”). Craig, You still didn’t answer my question about who IS country to you.

  36. Brady Vercher
    August 15, 2008 at 5:50 pm Permalink

    But I’m still not convinced that people think “I kinda like this Marcel guy’s music, but his name kind of sucks, so I guess I don’t really like him too much after all. How dare he go by just one name. I’m not buying that punk’s record! I think I’ll buy a Josh Gracin album instead, even if he’s dull and uninteresting. At least his name is normal.”:)

    Leeann, I think that’s looking at the name issue backwards. Once someone has heard his music, it ought to speak for itself, but when there’s an almost limitless number of artists all vying for your attention, how is Marcel going to get someone to check out his music? Going by a single name screams “marketing gimmick,” and like Chris said, it doesn’t exactly allow people to identify with him. So if you look at it as people not being interested in checking out his music in the first place, the name becomes very important. Just like you can’t read every book in the library, so you check out the ones that have interesting titles, covers, or synopsis. Marcel doesn’t really have any of that.

    I also think the one name deal is more closely associated with hip hop or pop and might cause the common country listener to throw up their guard.

    Wasn’t there a chick going by Blakely? I guess that’s another problem is that the name becomes harder to remember. And if I recall correctly, wasn’t Mica Roberts on Showdog pushing herself as just Mica? Needless to say, they certainly haven’t broken out.

  37. leeann
    August 15, 2008 at 6:01 pm Permalink

    Yeah, but their music wasn’t compelling either.

    Like I said earlier, a strange name would intrigue me rather than make me run the other way. Maybe that’s just me though.

  38. John Maglite
    August 15, 2008 at 6:02 pm Permalink

    I’d say Sylvia is the exception that proves the rule. Can anyone name another country artist in the last 30 years who has become famous using only one name?

    Hold that question. I’ll be back to answer it as soon as Coffey hits it big.

  39. leeann
    August 15, 2008 at 6:05 pm Permalink

    I meant to add that I don’t think that Mica Roberts or Blakely didn’t break through because of their choice to push one name, but rather because their music wasn’t at all compelling.

    Country music fans sure require a lot: their artists have to be skinny, they can’t be too liberal and they need to have names with which people can connect.

  40. CraigR.
    August 16, 2008 at 11:46 am Permalink

    Matt B. you are right. To me a real country singer is a storyteller of the highest regard who happens to be teling a story from the American South and West that is both personal and universal. That is the general way I see. How that breaks down for me is that I am not moved by cheap lip service to things that are country cliches. You can’t write a song with a list of things that you think will make me think you are real country. You can’t use Johnny Cash or Loretta Lynn in a song to try and cash in off of their merit. And just because you are from a small town in the South, or you and your “boys” go hunting or fishing every weekend is not enough to be a storyteller. A great storyteller knows that the devil is in the detail not in the general. Finally, an accent won’t get it done. Lots of great country singers don’t have an accent. But a list of country cliches and a southern twang does not make it country. Garth Brooks did that and I still don’t see him as a country singer.

    That said Craig Morgan and Luke Bryan may be great to look at, and may sound like your fishing buddy, but their storytelling skills are far from great. They take an easy road because they don’t have the full talent, or the true taste, to want to try. And frankly there is an audience out there that listens to them for background music.

    Great talents demands your real attention. They don’t placate your superficial definitions of what a country song should be. Most songs on the country charts today do that. I fell in love with country because it talked about adult feelings and real life. Not because it recounted back to me some titular image I wanted to have of myself and my culture. I leave that to pop music.

  41. Matt B.
    August 16, 2008 at 3:27 pm Permalink

    Craig R.,

    I appreciate the response. I just don’t see how the majority of Garth Brooks stuff ISN’T country but it’s fine if you do. The great thing about any music is it means different things to different people.

  42. Courtney
    August 16, 2008 at 7:27 pm Permalink

    Luke Bryan and Craig Morgan are NOT great to look at. I listen to Luke Bryan because I like his music. It’s not just background noise.

    One name like Marcel is easier to remember…

  43. Brit
    August 17, 2008 at 12:21 pm Permalink

    This is a BEAUTIFUL song and I love it!

  44. Nick
    August 17, 2008 at 12:27 pm Permalink

    I have to agree with many of the others on this thread about Luke Bryan and many of the new aritsts not being true country. I think hes just another one of the Nashville marketing director’s puppets. Anymore it seems that Nashville is trying to capitalize on the whole Larry The Cable Guy redneck thing, which in my opinion is way overdone. There are several other new artists that fall into this category as well. I dont mind some of the new songs out there but the “city slickers” singing about being country irritate me something fierce. One of the few exceptions to this rule however, is Eric Church. He at least makes his songs seem believable. An expamle would be “Sinners Like Me”. It doesnt just scream “I’m a country redneck like a lot of the new generic songs do. It’s one that many people in the country music fanbase can relate to.

  45. hairandtoenails
    August 17, 2008 at 4:27 pm Permalink

    The problem I have with these “Hey look at me, I’m country!” songs isn’t just the cynical marketing behind them. Though that is troubling enough.

    Its also that they claim to be celebrating country life, but they wind up being really lame celebrations. “Country Man,” “Holler Back,” or “Redneck Yacht Club” don’t exactly make “being country” sound attractive. Its as if a rapper tried to entice me into living the city life by bragging about the wonders of the daily street sweeping service and the new graffiti proof glass on the subway windows.

    Honestly, its hard to tell if “Redneck Yacht Club” and “Country Man” are embracing the lifestyle or making fun of it.

    There is so much to love about the country and the people who inhabit it, but these songs sell both short.

    Also, some of these songs, especially, “Country Man” throw in unnecessary insults at city-dwellers. These insults weaken the song, not strengthen it.

  46. Nick
    August 17, 2008 at 5:30 pm Permalink

    hairandtoenails, I definitely agree with you about many of these new songs making the country life sound unapealing. Another example of that would be “Hillbillies Like it Like That” by Hot Apple Pie. It as well as the others you mentioned are definitely more on the side of making fun of country life and the folks that live that lifestyle than bringing attention to what country life really is. If anything it makes those of us who live the rural lifestyle seem like those of the stereotypical South. Correct me if I’m wrong but a good example of genuine country music was much of the music the late Chris LeDoux. His songs were genuine western songs about rural and western life that gave a much more accurate description of how things really are out here. He was one of the few that could walk the walk as well as talk the talk unlike so many of today. I cannot think of very many country artists of today who lived the rodeo and ranching lifestyle before becomming country music singers. Too bad there arent more like him.

  47. Josh Gracin
    August 21, 2008 at 4:08 am Permalink

    Hey Everyone,

    Yeah it’s really me Josh Gracin Normally I would keep my mouth shut but I ‘M inclined to speak up on this. First of all the song is unique!! The Melody is nothing like country music today! The structure of the song is totally not typical country verse chorus verse chorus (which apparently you seem to like by reading your posts). As for the words those are the first things I think about when I think of my Wife. I won’t this song on my own if original is coming up with a gimic then I’m sorry. Country music is about personal life and I gave you mine in this song. I wrote Unbelievable (Ann Marie) on my own because I didn’t want someone else’s spin on my emotional feelings. I’m sorry If it’s not original enough for you. I guess the next time I write a song I will take your advice in to account. Before I do that, tell me how many songs you’ve written or how many hits you’ve had or what degree’s in music you have so I can be sure I’m getting good advice? All that matters to me is what my friends and fans think! The only reason I had to comment back is because this song is MY WIFE you have a problem with it then you have a problem with her and that’s a big problem with me!!!! Oh and last time I checked It’s not the instruments or melodies that make a Country song. What makes a country song is the honesty and sincerity of a life emotion or life experience the lyrics sing! Thank You for your time I know I haven’t changed your minds!!!!! But Frankly My Dear I Don’t Give A Damn! (Yes that’s not Original either! Send songs you’ve written to joshgracinfans08@yahoo.com so I can make sure to have good original content for my next album.

  48. Josh Gracin
    August 21, 2008 at 4:10 am Permalink

    Wow in my furry messed up a line! Ha This Line should read…

    “I wrote this song on my own, If an original means coming up with a Gimic to sell a song then I’m sorry”

  49. I completely and totally agree with Josh. Why? Because everyone can be an armchair quarterback when it comes to critiquing someone else’s work…but until you do it yourself, stand alone on a stage and bare your heart and soul to thousands (who may dig it or may not get it at all)…then you really have no grounds.

    The whole point behind my book was that while some people attack country music and call it hillbilly, redneck, stupid, pointless, etc…there ARE people out there who embrace it because it is fun, REAL, the entertainers are REAL PEOPLE not manufactured “sugary pop sex sells this minute and then gone the next flavor of the month” performers. That allows country music fans to relate to the singers.

    And c’mon – while some people rail on one song…to someone else in the world it has made all the difference. I have stories galore from fans who have one song or one moment that changed their lives in a deep meaningful profoundly positive way.

    So my final note is this – if you don’t like the song, don’t listen to it – BUT you don’t know what is inside Josh Gracin’s heart and soul, so don’t go there. If you don’t like the song – move on or change the station. But don’t theorize on what was in his heart, soul and ultimately transferred onto paper.

    Yeah, I did write a book and it is called Good Music is Better than Sex: My Search for the Old Blue Chair. Maybe you agree, maybe you don’t. And that’s cool but to Josh Gracin I say, “F* the haters Josh, you are one of my faves because you are REAL, HONEST and PERSONAL so keep on keeping on!”

    Judy Core – website http://www.goodmusicisbetterthansex.com

  50. BTW – I had to get my book and look at it again….On page 49 I wrote: “Josh Gracin didn’t make the top three on American Idol but he is kicking it on the country charts.” Country music is probably the only genre that has performers like Kenny Rogers who is 69ish, paired Loretta Lynn and Jack White, now Melissa Lawson, (my boy Jason Michael Carroll – Franklin County boy done good!!!! He’s from my neck of NC) and has a slew of performers who are real people with real dreams who reinforce to all the other real normal ordinary people out there who are chasing their dreams – that is is possible if you take risks. Josh Gracin chased his dream, got it and took a risk with the song Unbelievable (Ann Marie)…just like Kenny Chesney took a risk with Be As You Are…That album changed my life even though it was bashed inside and out and shredded to bits in reviews. Josh – thank you for taking the risk. Last note, if someone wrote a song about me and put my name in it – that is a Grand Gesture of Love (a whole chapter on those) and that is the bomb…As a woman who understands the woman’s side of love, marriage, relationships, divorces, etc, putting his wife’s name in the title was for Ann Marie. Not a marketing ploy for the general public.

    PS – Ann Marie – you lucky girl. He’s a keeper and I don’t even know him.

    XOXO
    Judy Marie (feel free to stick it in a song if you like)

  51. Stormy
    August 21, 2008 at 8:07 am Permalink

    Josh: I don’t plan to listen to it. Singers like you are a lot of the reason I stopped listening to the mainstream in the first place, so thanks for making the genre unlistenable. Once upon a time country music was a thing that mattered to me, but as a country fan I stopped mattering to people like you so I moved on to Americana. Have fun singing your candy coated tripe and if, at the end of the year, you and your label are trying to figure out why sales are so low–its not us, its you. And finally, there used to be this country artist who was bigger, in his day, than Garth Brooks. His name was Hank Williams–you might give him a listen sometime.

    Judy: If music is better than sex, if ANYTHING is better than good sex, you aren’t doing it right. Loretta Lynn and Jack White weren’t country–they were Americana. Like me, they had to leave the genre to the sugar coated pop acts. In the middle of Kenny Chesney biting lines from Tom Cruise movies and songs like Josh’s there’s no room for a song that opens, “Now Portland, Oregon and sloe gin fizz/If that ain’t love then tell me what is?”

    As for judging, yes I can. I used to spend HOURS in my bedroom listening to country music. All I have to do is pull out a cd to tell the difference in quality between Merle Haggard and Josh Gracin. Or even Justin Townes Earle and Josh Gracin. And here is the thing, Justin doesn’t have a bag full of excuses and a list of hoops I must jump through before I can judge his songs because–and here is the kicker–his songs can stand up to critiquing. I’m not a song writer, I am a story writer. The first thing you do with a story is take it before other writers so it can get picked apart. Judy, as a writer you should know this–if your writing is not strong enough to survive critiquing, its not strong enough period.

  52. Kelly
    August 21, 2008 at 8:37 am Permalink

    Josh, thats great that its an honest song, and you ar right about honesty being an integral part of country music. However, your honesty doesnt translate into a really great song in this case, in my opinion. If you can sit here and say you love everything you have ever heard, and that you have never turned down a song that was pitched to you because you thought it sucked, then fine, you are a bigger man than most of us, but I know that isnt true. I also have not written a hit song, so i guess you dont care…i gotta go polish my big brass bed….

  53. Kelly
    August 21, 2008 at 8:40 am Permalink

    Judy, way to be subtle with the whole “I hope people dont notice I am plugging my book instead of just making a comment on a blog” approach…I doubt anyone was able to see through your carefully disguised effort….

  54. Brady Vercher
    August 21, 2008 at 9:00 am Permalink

    First off, Josh, welcome to The 9513 and thanks for taking the time to comment.

    First of all the song is unique!! The Melody is nothing like country music today! The structure of the song is totally not typical country verse chorus verse chorus (which apparently you seem to like by reading your posts).

    Country music is a lyric based format and you need a pretty catchy melody to make up for any lyrical deficiencies. That’s not to say the lyrics to “Unbelievable” are deficient, they’re just generic and honestly, the melody isn’t strong enough to carry this song. I also didn’t mention anything about song structure, so I dunno where you got that idea.

    As for the words those are the first things I think about when I think of my Wife.

    If these are the first words that you think of when you think of your wife, perhaps it’s because so many other songs and movies use the exact same thoughts to express love that it’s become an ingrained tendency. Why not think about it on a deeper or creative level and come up with something more original? Your wife at least deserves that and so does the country audience. Why be content with writing the first thing that comes to mind?

    I won’t this song on my own if original is coming up with a gimic then I’m sorry. Country music is about personal life and I gave you mine in this song. I wrote Unbelievable (Ann Marie) on my own because I didn’t want someone else’s spin on my emotional feelings. I’m sorry If it’s not original enough for you. [...] What makes a country song is the honesty and sincerity of a life emotion or life experience the lyrics sing!

    Honest? Sure. But honesty is independent of quality or creativity. Originality is independent of quality as well, but it at least shows that you’re trying. If you want to make music in an insulated bubble and convince yourself that it’s great (and you can be successful), then by all means, go for it. But, we’re not living in a bubble and the fact is that the lyrics to “Unbelievable” are generic and when we’ve heard something time and time again, it’s no longer compelling.

    I guess the next time I write a song I will take your advice in to account. Before I do that, tell me how many songs you’ve written or how many hits you’ve had or what degree’s in music you have so I can be sure I’m getting good advice? All that matters to me is what my friends and fans think!

    Does someone need to have written a few hits or a music degree to understand the concepts I’ve mentioned? We receive this very argument (there’s unoriginal again) from numerous songwriters and besides having no logical basis, it reeks of elitism. Historically, country music is the music of the common man. Should the common man need a degree in music to understand a simple song being played on the radio?

    The only reason I had to comment back is because this song is MY WIFE you have a problem with it then you have a problem with her and that’s a big problem with me!!!!

    I sure hope you can tell the difference between this song and your wife. I certainly don’t have a problem with her.

    Again, thanks for dropping by and feel free to come on back, but check your furry at the door next time.

  55. Kelly
    August 21, 2008 at 9:03 am Permalink

    Brady: My man crush on you grows stronger by the day.

  56. Chris N.
    August 21, 2008 at 9:34 am Permalink

    Hell hath no furry like a songwriter scorned.

  57. Chris N.
    August 21, 2008 at 9:49 am Permalink

    Oh, and have I mentioned my book, ‘Bad Sex is Better Than No Sex’?

  58. Sam G.
    August 21, 2008 at 9:50 am Permalink

    It’s nice to know that total ignorance of the English language, including the rules for grammar, spelling, punctuation and capitalization, isn’t enough to deny someone a career in songwriting.

    (I know, that can’t possibly be Josh Gracin. But it’s funny to think that it could be.)

  59. Chris N.
    August 21, 2008 at 9:54 am Permalink

    I, too, am dubious about “Josh’s” identity. I know this is the blog where the elite meet, but still …

  60. Kelly
    August 21, 2008 at 10:17 am Permalink

    Chris and Sam listen here! I doubt either one of you have ever successfully posed as a semi-famous, barely relevant and overly sensitive songwriter on a blog’s comments section before. To me, that makes your above comments almost as pointless as much of the music coming from the performer that was likely being falsely represented here….

  61. Judy
    August 21, 2008 at 10:18 am Permalink

    Kelly – I don’t give a damn about publicizing my book…hence the reason that I self-published it and I really only use word of mouth because I don’t have the time to market it and I did it for me, not to make money. Oh, and when I actually have money to buy my own books, I give them away for free because I like to hear back from people who can relate to the story. And….the point that I was trying to make was that regardless of what some people view as common, ignorant, bland, boring, etc…a song can make all the difference to one person out there.

    I thought that by giving my own example would support my statements…however I now see that I should have just come out and said Buy My Book Because My Broke Ass Needs to Pay The Bills And Here is a Fabulous Opportunity to Market Myself…I’m sorry that my transparent efforts at trying to sway the reading population of The 9513 to buy my book were so obvious. I guess I will have to pad my own pockets elsewhere…LOL

    You guys are very entertaining! Oh and Stormy, ironically I do make fun of Chesney and that stupid Tom Cruise song in the book. Mainly I hate Tom Cruise, but that’s another story. There is a reason behind the title of the book – you don’t even have to buy the book…you can see it on my myspace page. It is kind of long or I would paste it here…www.myspace.com/goodmusicisbetterthansex – My writing probably isn’t strong enough to be a “Real” Writer and make a living, I say the F word too much, I like to use ya’ll, and other redneck phrases that don’t fit too well in academia or mainstream.

    And…I get the whole critic angle – I was defending Josh on the part that when you put your heart and soul out there – you have to take the attitude of F’ the haters because if not, you will end up being eaten alive.

    Okay, I gotta run and go have some bad sex now…or maybe just listen to some music, or perhaps sit and theorize some more on Americana, Bluegrass, Folk, and Death Metal. But, I am kind of shallow – so I am probably just gonna go listen to me some Lost Trailers, cuz Holler Back is just really fun to dance to and I am kind of having a bad day due to real world adult crap like lawsuits, defaults and other negative, non-entertaining shiz.

    Peace out my music bloggin friends…
    Judy “PLEASE BUY MY BOOK OR HAVE SEX WITH ME AND SHOW ME WHAT I AM DOING WRONG!!!”

    LMAO (Seriously, thanks though for making me laugh on this here crappyass day!)

  62. Matt B.
    August 21, 2008 at 10:48 am Permalink

    Wow,

    Josh Gracin’s still up at 4-5 AM? That was my first clue that it is possibly not him (plus giving a ‘fans’ email to send songs to?) Artists aren’t allowed to get material that way. It must be pitched to their A&R meeting people or be handed directly to them from music industry types (or a struggling songwriter at a show, perhaps). So the legitimacy of this being the “real” Josh Gracin is truly in doubt.

  63. Stormy
    August 21, 2008 at 10:57 am Permalink

    Judy:
    1. Self Publishing only works if you have nothing BUT time to market yourself.
    2. Why are you buying your own books for other people? You SELF published which means you own all the copies and already paid for them once.
    3. Literary publishing has no problem with Western characters or with the f-bomb.

  64. Chris N.
    August 21, 2008 at 11:10 am Permalink

    “Chris and Sam listen here! I doubt either one of you have ever successfully posed as a semi-famous, barely relevant and overly sensitive songwriter on a blog’s comments section before.”

    No, I haven’t. … OR HAVE I? MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA!

  65. Kelly
    August 21, 2008 at 11:37 am Permalink

    oh, i am catching on now…you are PERFECT STRANGER, arent you?!?!??!!?

  66. Chris N.
    August 21, 2008 at 11:44 am Permalink

    I’ve already said too much.

  67. Judy
    August 21, 2008 at 11:57 am Permalink

    Stormy – yeah I know, I know…I guess I should say I published with POD (print on demand) so for instance I can buy in bulk for a deep discount and they do all the printing, etc…(it is booksurge – and they are owned by amazon), and most of the time, I tell people if you want a copy just holla and I will send you one for free like on the Chesney fan club or whatever…then other times, when I mention the book people like Kelly attack me and I am forced to go into a curled up fetal position sucking my thumb crying about hate in the world. (Pls note – I am sarcastic as hell! LOL) The same thing happened on one fan site and I pretty much said…F’ that. No free books for you freaks and I have not allowed them to be enlightened by my literary work of art! LMAO!

    Hmm…I’m probably just lazy too…

    I am starting to fall in love with this website…I have been reading the mailbag…

  68. Stormy
    August 21, 2008 at 12:14 pm Permalink

    You can self publish for free on fictionpress.com.

  69. Kelly
    August 21, 2008 at 12:29 pm Permalink

    Judy, I am sacrastic as hell too. Just not used to such agressive self-promotion on the comments section here (thats not a criticsm, it is what it is and that is fine by me) ;-)

  70. Chris N.
    August 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm Permalink

    You could have submitted it for a review or something.

  71. Chris – you are absolutely right. I am going to do that, and in fact for you – it is required reading material because you think even bad sex is good sex!!!!!

    Kelly – stop hurting my feelings and making my cry damnit! “Aggressive” I always thought I was the shy quiet type. LOL Okay, my intent was not to aggressively self promote but I can see how that came across.

    I do think the reason I reacted so intensely to posting was because the song is about his wife. You know, so it is kind of hard (if we just assume that the comment actually was from him)to not step to his defense. If the song wasn’t personal (i.e. his words about his wife) then he probably wouldn’t get so riled up nor would I have cared or bothered to post. And again…not for self promotion – but I referenced my book because it is about a very personal subject (i.e. Me… again not self promoting just giving context) and if someone read my book and said it wasn’t deep or personal I would be a tiny bit crushed. Because it’s about me so it is kind of hard to not take that personally, if whatever I wrote was fiction and someone said the same thing, I probably be okay with the feedback. Which, again if we assume that was really Josh Gracin, I could understand how he would get his drawers in a dither. Feedback is good, yes absolutely that is how we grow.

    Okay I have to go, I cannot concentrate on having a profound musical debate while The Backyardigans are on tv.

  72. Kelly
    August 21, 2008 at 7:31 pm Permalink

    ok, ok, Judy, lets just calm down. I didnt mean “agressive” in a bad way, like i said, it was what it was, and thats fine…lets be friends…see? we’re ok now..

  73. I’m not talking to you…

  74. Okay…now we’re good! LOL

  75. Stormy
    August 21, 2008 at 9:41 pm Permalink

    I do think the reason I reacted so intensely to posting was because the song is about his wife.

    Lines like that always get my knickers in a twist. If you have to emotionally blackmail me to like a song, why would I want to bother with it?

  76. Thomas
    August 22, 2008 at 1:49 am Permalink

    judy,
    sentences like: “i’m not talking to you…” are major sex-killers. enjoy the music!

  77. Chris N.
    August 22, 2008 at 9:28 am Permalink

    You’ll find that resorting to the “But It’s About …” defense gets you nothing but shame and derision around here.

  78. leeann
    August 22, 2008 at 11:11 am Permalink

    I could write a song about my husband, who I think the world of, but I can also guarantee that the song wouldn’t deserve one bit of airplay.
    Just because Gracin wrote this about his wife, it still doesn’t make the song very good. Furthermore, if someone were to write a song for me, I’d hope that it wouldn’t be so marrow about why I was so “unbelievable.”

    All we learn from this song is that the reason Ann Marie is so dang unbelievable is because she turns him on. That’s cool, but pretty one-dimmensional. I think some of my problem with the song is in the title. If he had simply named the song “Unbelievable”, then I might buy it a bit more (though it would still bore me), but since he actually went as far to put his wife’s name in the title, I expect a lot more substance on why his wife is so unbelievable. Otherwise, it’s just genaric.

  79. Crystal B.
    August 22, 2008 at 10:12 pm Permalink

    My family saw Josh Gracin in concert a few days ago. It was better than the George Jones concert I attended as a teen in the late 80’s. I own both of his CD’s and voted for him on American Idol. His fourth place finish attests to the fact that I was not alone in my voting. He has had a #1 hit and more than one top 10. Every song on We Weren’t Crazy is great. “Unbelievable” expresses how much Josh loves his wife using words that enter his mind when he looks at her. Those feelings and his choice of words are intimate expressions that I find sweet and sincere. Country music is a mere reflection of all that we are and this song mirrors the contentment and love Ann Marie brings to Josh. I can identify with his love, intimacy, and commitment. In fact it is exactly why I love the song. Josh has a unique voice, different enough to propel him for weeeks on American Idol. He is a family man who is willing to risk his life for our homeland and so each of us can express these very opinions. There is plenty for him to write and sing and I will be right here buying his music as he does. When you attend a concert he promises to entertain each fan for the entire time and he is true to his word. I have met artists who were “putting on” for the fans this man is not one of those artists. Josh and his songs are honest and heartfelt…..which today is in itself completely original.

  80. Stormy
    August 23, 2008 at 10:24 am Permalink

    Josh was the second tier spaz singer of his season. What kept him on the show was the whole militaryt hing they kept banging away at.

  81. Jamie
    August 25, 2008 at 10:35 pm Permalink

    Wow you guys are assholes. I can guarantee you that this song will get lots of airplay and be a big hit for Josh because it IS a good song. Sometimes a good song doesn’t need to be creative or all that “original” by your terms but just a good song that people can relate to. THAT is why people love country music. It’s full of songs about life and just livin’ life.

  82. Trailer
    August 25, 2008 at 11:02 pm Permalink

    Maybe it’s just their ears that are a-holes. No, that wouldn’t make sense.

  83. Shannon
    September 3, 2008 at 12:30 am Permalink

    Love his new release Unbelievable and this entire CD. I had to recently buy a second one-I wore the first one out! Wow, are we just a little over the top here with critisism over Gracin and his music? I think he has such a beautiful baritone voice, in my opinion one of the most impressive voices in country music today. It’s fresh and alive! His Album is passionite and sincere, listen to his lyrics to Invisable. His voice has such a warmth to it and it really delivers when it comes to the simplier arrangements and melodies. I find Josh Gracin and his music to be spellbinding, his concerts are even more electrifying. Yes, country music does really sound and look like this! Thank Goodness!

  84. Bobby
    September 3, 2008 at 12:11 pm Permalink

    If I were Ann Marie Gracin, I’d be offended that my name was on this song. It’s gratingly cliché in every way.

    On the plus side, Gracin’s voice sounds stronger than ever.

  85. Brian
    September 6, 2008 at 7:25 pm Permalink

    I hope you guys didn’t think that was the real Josh. XD That can’t be Josh. Now, I really like Josh. He’s one of my favorites. But I have to admit, this isn’t one of his best songs.

  86. Anon
    October 18, 2008 at 12:28 pm Permalink

    “Furthermore, if someone were to write a song for me, I’d hope that it wouldn’t be so marrow about why I was so ‘unbelievable’.”

    Don’t worry, no one is going to write a song about you, because they wouldn’t want to be crushed by the negative response they would get for not being explicit or creative enough.

    But who knows, there are a lot of desperate people out there, so maybe someone will write a song for you called “UnFreakinBelievable (LeeAnn)”

  87. Rainbow
    October 18, 2008 at 1:00 pm Permalink

    I’m going to be honest and say that I like the song in a cotton-candy kind of way.
    It’s way too repetitive and it doesn’t say much more than “You’re unbelieveable!”, but I still enjoy it.

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