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I love Cody Canada, and the rest of Cross Canadian Ragweed. They arent “country”, nor are they supposed to be, and Rick’s preference of that song over the entire catalog of Cross Canadian is baffling to me. Even with their success, they still arent vanilla or glossy, even if their most recent stuff isnt the greatest. I would like to see Cody Canada and Jamey Johnson in a drunken bar fight though….

Ugh… more politics? Rosanne Cash can shove it, what a loser.

We need to keep the political discussion on topic, and we need to keep it civil. Things got a little bit out of hand last time around. It is understandable that emotions are high on both sides right now, so what I would ask all commenters is this: be respectful of others who have differing opinions, AND keep the conversation related to Rosanne’s statement. Blanket insults such as “all liberals have poor judgment” or “all conservatives have poor judgment” serve no other purpose than to incite, and as such are inappropriate.

That’s valid criticism, Jim, but the point remains: Jackie Robinson deserved to play (and star) in major league baseball for reasons having nothing to do with his color and temperament, but his God-given ability. His disposition may be what made him the first black player, but it wasn’t a sole qualification that put him someplace where he otherwise had no business playing.

I agree with you about that, Matt.

What I disagree with you about is that Obama “doesn’t deserve” to be president. Who “deserves” to be president? What are the “qualifications?” Last I checked, anyone could run for President, and a person’s qualification were to be judged by the electorate.

The same could be said about Palin. And the same is said about Palin. It’s up to the electorate to decide in both cases, factoring in expierience, judgment, temperament, policy platforms, etc.

What I disagree with you about is that Obama “doesn’t deserve” to be president. Who “deserves” to be president? What are the “qualifications?” Last I checked, anyone could run for President, and a person’s qualification were to be judged by the electorate.

Jim, you’re right that “deserve” isn’t an appropriate term in a traditional Presidential election. However, it becomes more appropriate when you consider the historic nature of this election. Simply by virtue of being first, Obama/Palin will be remembered better than perhaps any subsequent black President/female VP. And it’s not as if, after 230 years, we just happen to be getting around to electing a black or a woman: it’s been difficult to impossible for almost all of American history due to systemic prejudice. The first person to break this barrier ought to be an exemplary candidate for office. While no one knows how Palin/Obama would perform in their positions, based solely on analysis of their experience and apparent aptitude for the position, both appear to be among the least exemplary candidates in history. Thus, I think it’s fair to say that neither deserves the enviable place in the history books that one will soon secure.

“I don’t know if anyone deserves to be president, but there are definitely some who don’t deserve to be — chief among them being people who associate with unrepentant terrorists, race-baiting clergymen, and fraudulent get-out-the-vote organizations.”

For every one of these talking points you’re tossing out there, I could raise a talking point about McCain–and neither of us would get anywhere. Let’s be honest–I’m going to view the talking points you noted above in a certain subjective way, just as you would view whatever negative things I might bring up about McCain in a certain way. Thus, it makes no sense to bring up these things in a forum designed to discuss country music. I do hope we have the opportunity some day to discuss them in a more appropriate place, though I doubt either of us will change the other’s mind.

Matt-

“The first person to break this barrier ought to be an exemplary candidate for office.”

Wouldn’t that be an example of systematic prejudice, though? It sounds like you’re saying that because Obama is black, or because Palin is a woman, they should be above average candidates.

Otherwise, I get what you’re saying, and think there’s a lot of truth to it.

I am more inclined to think that Obama is, in fact, an above average candidate–not because of expierience or policy, but because of temperament. There are a lot of things I don’t like about Obama, but there are also a lot of things that make him a polar opposite to GWB. As someone who has spent a great deal of time abroad this year, I can tell you that we drastically need a president who is going to help restore our standing in the world community. I’m not sure that most American recognize (or care about) how the rest of the world views us right now, but let me tell you–it ain’t pretty. I may not agree with Obama’s position on FISA (or various other issues), but I think he is the best candidate from this cycle to help heal our image and start to undo some of the damage of the past eight years.

i think sarah palin’s 15 minutes of fame are, fortunately, already history. and how desirable is it really, to be a quiz-show topic from now on?

when it comes to the gop’s top pick, how wise was that, to enter the race with a rather senior senior citizen, who’s on top, quite clueless on economic issues? something that, these days, even seems to matter quite a bit in the country music world - see the curb records/tim mcgraw story.

Jim,

What you say about Obama and his ability to represent us in the rest of the world is one of the main reasons why I like him. He will be able to do those things. I have spent 2 of the last 3 years s outside of the country and while it was in an area where the USA is still ‘liked’ (Korea and China), I still saw a lot more anti-american prejudice than most American’s would care to talk about.

As for the topic here, I think that people Roseanne Cash have the right, just as much as any of us, to state why they like or don’t like a candidtate.

” Barack is from a humble background (mixed race child of a single mother who had to use food stamps), ”

He was raised by his grandparents and his grandmother was a bank vice president. I find it hard to believe that he was ever on food stamps.

” As someone who has spent a great deal of time abroad this year, I can tell you that we drastically need a president who is going to help restore our standing in the world community. ”

Being loved by the rest of the world shouldn’t be our #1 priority.

“I can’t remember any of the Democrats on the site (you know, the other major political party in the US) interjecting angry, radical talking points onto the9513 …”

I must have missed something. Where are these angry, radical right-wing talking points?

Razor X
October 15, 2008 at 1:06 pm
“Who “deserves” to be president?”

I don’t know if anyone deserves to be president, but there are definitely some who don’t deserve to be — chief among them being people who associate with unrepentant terrorists, race-baiting clergymen, and fraudulent get-out-the-vote organizations.

Here’s some evidence from you, razor.

“Here’s some evidence from you, razor.”

Since when is speaking the truth radical?

End of political discussion. A thread was started in the forum to continue this last time and that’s where it needs to stay unless it’s related to the articles at hand. We don’t mind conversation veering off topic, but political discussions become too emotional.

Any further comments not pertaining to the conversation at hand will be removed.

but I’m tired of right-wing talking points on the9513. I can’t remember any of the Democrats on the site (you know, the other major political party in the US) interjecting angry, radical talking points onto the9513, and unless you guys need a country music site that doubles as redstate.com, then can we please keep the political discussion polite or just keep it out all together?

I thought that was worded differently the first time I read it, but I agree that we don’t need angry talking points or baseless attacks from either side.

I made that joke on the CMT blog at 2:20. Read it and weep!

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For people of a certain age (like me!), Gene Autry will always loom large in our memories. It’s hard to overstate his influence…musical, moral, etc.
All the cowboys were ______, but fortunately… I’m able to look beyond that fact and concentrate on all the good stuff…and there was sure plenty of that! Thanks for putting up the video!

Edit: I guess you didn’t read the comments. Please refrain from political digs. - Brady

Since Chris Gaines has released an album in the last 15 years, he sould be able to recieve the Horizon Award and/or the Best New Artist Award. they may try and give the best new duo to him and Garth combined too…

I love Roseanne Cash almost as much as I love Tina Fey. :)

Yes, Stromy, that’s right.

in my view, the main reason that puts “the9513″ above all other country music blogs is that opinions on given topics can be voiced almost unrestricted and only have to stand the test of being questioned by the participating community (editors included). quite a hurdle, actually.

since the usa, and consequently the whole world (of which, i’m a part), finds itself at important crossroads at the moment, it’s only natural that life’s bigger realities overshadow comparatively small indulgences, like country music. even though, it might seem to be a minor disturbing factor in the “front window” of “the9513″, one has to conclude that it doesn’t get any countrier than that.

i’m not sure, whether it’s such a good idea to push these discussions into the back-room (forum). the fact that they start in the front-room thread should rather be seen as sign of the times and the people that have to deal with them. is it really surprising and unwelcome that “opryland” presently doesn’t stand a chance against country - not in my book.

Amen Chris: I need that bracelet!! I suspect he would just give everyone a good dose of Country Justice…Watson style!! Like he sings “Justice for ALL”

He’d just wear some tights and skate around…but that isnt anything I dont do an a typical Tuesday night, really.