Black Crowes Sue Gretchen Wilson For Copyright Infringement

Brady Vercher | July 31st, 2008 Email Share

  • Let us know what you think about Black Crowes suing Gretchen Wilson over the song she sang for a “Saving Grace” commercial. Do they have a case? (Thanks to Paula for the link)
  • Congrats to the fine folks over at Country Universe for passing one million views since moving their blog to WordPress two years ago. Keep up the good work, guys.
  • James Otto is joining Alan Jackson and Trace Adkins in what should be renamed “The Tour of Giants” rather than “Alan Jackson’s Good Time Tour.” What would you call a tour with that lineup?
  • John Maglite, from the excellent Country, California blog, discusses the legacy of Keith Whitley and his influence on seven current artists: Daryle Singletary, Keith Perry, Joe Nichols, Kevin Denney, Scott Hisey, Leland Martin, and Bradley Walker.
  • PBS will be airing the documentary Johnny Cash: The Man, His World, His Music on August 5, and as a preview, they’ve published a clip of Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash singing “Jackson.” Good stuff.
  • Alison Bonaguro has a short Q&A with Taylor Swift over on CMT.com about her songwriting process:

    OK. Cool. Now let’s talk about your songs. Clearly, whatever you’re doing, people are digging. So many of your fans can relate to the words in your songs. Is that what you tend to focus on when you write?

    Not just the lyrics, no. They’re important. But when I write a song, I hear the full production in my head. Every banjo roll, every fiddle riff, every single nuance. I think my songs really come to life once that production is behind them.

  • Do you need a hug? Keith Anderson has one waiting for you, just pick your poison.
  • Chris Neal sat down and talked with Phil Collen of Def Leppard about their country aspirations and connections. The articles starts off with this doozy: Bon Jovi, Jewel, Jessica Simpson, Darius Rucker–the list of rock and pop stars dipping their tootsies in the warm inviting country music waters gets a little longer every day. Go check it out!
  • Amber Digby announced on her MySpace blog that she received a nomination for Pure Country Female Artist from the Academy of Western Artists. Other females nominated for that award are: Mona McCall, Heather Myles, Leighan Cortes, and Liz Talley.
  • Squinty Dan’s has the scoop on a new single from the winner of the premiere season of Norway’s Pop Idol, Kurt Nilsen. The single? None other than the venerable Hank Williams tune “Lost Highway,” with special guest Willie Nelson.
  • Roughstock follows with the scoop on new artist Chad Hudson–the third artist signed to Robbins Nashville–and his song “Somebody Find Me A Preacher.” He does an admirable job on the song (judging from his MSpace), but it’s hard to top the Trace Adkins version from his Songs About Me album.
  • Dwight Yoakam was surprised Sunday night with a gold record for The Very Best of Dwight Yoakam. The award was presented by actors Vince Vaughn and John Favreau.
  • While waiting for the release of his next album, Pat Green has packaged five of his early albums together for only $25. Quantities are limited, so act fast if you’re interested sold out.
  • Check out this video of Justin Timberlake singing a country song on “Star Search” at age 11 and just imagine what might have been. He certainly had the moves down for the next “Achy Breaky Heart.”
  • Adam Gregory has been signed by Big Machine to a promotion and distribution agreement, following what little success his single “Crazy Days” has achieved–it’s currently at 37 on Billboard. (via email)

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  1. [...] yet, thanks to the fine folks over at The 9513, I’ve spent my lunch hour trying to decide if the Black Crows have any grounds to sue [...]

  1. Chris N.
    July 31, 2008 at 10:16 am Permalink

    Sadly, it was just the one member of Def Leppard (guitarist Phil Collen). And to be honest, I only really “sat down” on my couch while Phil walked down the street in London and talked on his cell phone. Oh, the glamor of music journalism!

  2. Brady Vercher
    July 31, 2008 at 10:19 am Permalink

    Ahh, I see that now. I fixed the article to reflect that. Thanks.

  3. Chris N.
    July 31, 2008 at 10:21 am Permalink

    … and as always, thanks for the publicity.

  4. Jim Malec
    July 31, 2008 at 10:22 am Permalink

    At least you have a couch!
    I sit on milk crates.

  5. Peter Kohan
    July 31, 2008 at 10:25 am Permalink

    It’s no mystery as to why any artist from other genres would want to break into Country. It’s got a radio format with over 2,000 stations that keep hit songs on the air for 4-6 months at a time, video channels that seem to actually play music videos. The fans follow their artists all around the country and are loyal as hell. Country fans have not moved towards a digital music marketplace at the same rate as pop, rock, or hip-hop fans, so there’s less fear of sales cannibalization. Big box retail still supports Country releases.

    Anyone listening to those massive-selling Shania Twain records knows those records are just Def Leppard albums with lyrics from a female perspective. One has to wonder if Shania’s recording career will have a completely different future if she now no longer works with Mutt Lange in the studio… but we all know how well it worked for the past 13 or so years. My only question is what took these outsiders so long to catch on to these trends?

  6. leeann
    July 31, 2008 at 10:37 am Permalink

    I’m going to try to get in on the Pat Green offer! Too good to pass up. I only have one album, but have been toying with getting more.

  7. Matt B.
    July 31, 2008 at 10:38 am Permalink

    I think Gretchen and John Rich are going to have to share the royalties of that song with the Black Crowes. It’s as simple as that. The melodies are very similar indeed.

    As for Adam Gregory, it looks like Midas realizes that they can’t afford to back their artists completely so they do try to find ways to get their artists more exposure. It seems to me that they partnered with Montage Music to distribute and promote Emerson Drive. I do wonder though if Em Drive won’t be getting promoted by Big Machine now too. It makes sense considering Scott Borchetta worked their stuff at DreamWorks.

  8. Derrick
    July 31, 2008 at 10:43 am Permalink

    All I’m going to say about the Black Crowes/Gretchen thing is this: if you’re going to blatantly lift a song on purpose, wouldn’t you at least want to blatantly lift from a half-way decent song?

    The melodies are incredibly similar but I’m going to chalk it up to coincidence.

    The Crowe’s don’t have a case. You can copyright words and music structure. Melody is intangible.

  9. Matt B.
    July 31, 2008 at 10:47 am Permalink

    Derrick,

    Which is why the Crowes will likely be added to the song publishing. That would be the best way to make this all go away for both parties.

  10. Brady Vercher
    July 31, 2008 at 11:00 am Permalink

    Miranda Lambert added Steve Earle to the writing credits on “Kerosense” when something was mentioned about her song being similar to one of his, and Corb Lund added Stan Rogers to the writing credits after it was brought to his attention that the melody of “I Wanna Be In The Cavalry” was similar to Rogers’ “The Idiot.” So, there is precedent here and like Matt B, I’d think they would just add the Crowes to the writing credits.

  11. Brad B
    July 31, 2008 at 11:01 am Permalink

    Matt B. is correct. Gretchen needs to open the checkbook and let the Robinson brothers in. The melody on the verses is identical.

  12. Lynn
    July 31, 2008 at 11:04 am Permalink

    Oh man, when did you post this? Pat Green is sold out already!

  13. Stephen H.
    July 31, 2008 at 11:05 am Permalink

    I can’t think of any examples, but the melody sounds similar to quite a few songs I’ve heard. There’s only so many ways you can do a 12-bar blues pattern.

  14. Brady Vercher
    July 31, 2008 at 11:09 am Permalink

    Lynn, I posted this about an hour ago. I can’t believe they’re already gone. I guess they really did have limited quantities.

  15. John Maglite
    July 31, 2008 at 11:10 am Permalink

    Thanks for the mention! This must be the day for plugging regular readers… Country Universe, Alison, Chris, Squinty Dan, Roughstock, me…

  16. Chris N.
    July 31, 2008 at 11:10 am Permalink

    @Jim: It’s technically a futon, but I like it.

  17. leeann
    July 31, 2008 at 11:29 am Permalink

    Ah, that’s disappointing! I was hoping to get his stuff that way, since I’m not completely sold, though I think there’s potential for me to like his non-radio stuff. I really like his voice and his Three Days album that I already have. I just haven’t liked the stuff that he’s released to radio, not even “Wave On Wave” or “Dixie Lullaby.”

  18. Rick
    July 31, 2008 at 11:32 am Permalink

    When it comes to people who were highly influenced by Keith Whitley, don’t forget former Nashville Star winner Chris Young. Turns out his first country album purchase was Keith’s “Miami, My Amy”. Also Ashton Shepherd’s reference in “Sounds So Good” indicates Keith’s music affected her as well.

    As for Alison Bonaguro’s interview with Taylor Swift the question and response I liked best was:

    AB: “You seem to really have this down to a science. But how do you make sure you never write the same song twice?”

    TS: “I never ever want to be that kind of artist who writes the same song over and over. The perfect album for me will always be about having all different beats and syncopations and lyrics.”

    I’ve stated here on The 9513 before that what makes Talyor’s music so hook-y is the syncopation of how she delivers syllables in her lyrics. Taylor has grasped the power of delivery of rap/hip hop music and incoporated it effectively into her songwriting. Her vocal pacing is far more Eminem than Patsy Cline..

    Thanks for plugging Amber Digby! Amber was recently asked by John Schneider (the real Bo Duke) to join him on stage at a country festival in France! Amber posted a picture of herself standing next to John but I think it made her husband Bobo jealous, so it didn’t stay up very long. (lol)

  19. Dan M.
    July 31, 2008 at 11:34 am Permalink

    John’s right; y’all are totally spreading the love today. Thanks!

  20. Trailer
    July 31, 2008 at 11:36 am Permalink

    Hate I missed that Pat Green deal. His early work still stands up surprisingly well. I love all the fiddle work. His new stuff doesn’t move me (though it does sound really good live). My latest “honest album cover” reflects my feelings and those of many Texas music fans about “Cannonball.”

  21. Stormy
    July 31, 2008 at 11:42 am Permalink

    Imagine the possibilities of Justin Timberlake in country. Gee thanks. I really didn’t want to eat lunch today anyway.

  22. Kelly
    July 31, 2008 at 12:06 pm Permalink

    well, I guess I got left out of the love-spreading today! What? My beer-diary from denver isnt a “musical” post, so I get left out??????

  23. Lynn
    July 31, 2008 at 12:36 pm Permalink

    Rick – Don’t forget, Taylor covers Eminem in concert. I believe “Lose Yourself” is the song of choice. I think she sticks with the “talky” style because it suits her voice (as in she can’t sing). Smart.

  24. Marc
    July 31, 2008 at 12:36 pm Permalink

    Dear Black Crowes,

    If this makes Gretchen Wilson go away, I will buy all your albums…. twice.

    Thanks,
    Marc

  25. idlewyldsouth
    July 31, 2008 at 12:37 pm Permalink

    I agree about Taylor Swifts phrasing. Its interesting that you mention Eminem out of all rappers…I saw her live and did his “Lose Yourself”…I enjoyed that more than her own songs she sang.

  26. Thomas
    July 31, 2008 at 12:47 pm Permalink

    alan jackson, trace adkins and james otto – say what you will about this line-up, but small fry it ain’t.

  27. Paula
    July 31, 2008 at 12:53 pm Permalink

    I would like to go see James, and maybe stay for Trace, but mosey on out ahead of traffic when Alan comes on.

  28. mikeky
    July 31, 2008 at 1:56 pm Permalink

    i wouldn’t mosey on out ahead of traffic. i would mosey right into it and pray for sweet, sweet death. i still find him…boring. james otto has had how many hits? one? two? and trace adkins is…well, he’s tall. that’s all i can say. i’ll be in traffic.

  29. Chris N.
    July 31, 2008 at 2:22 pm Permalink

    I have a theory that the influence of hip-hop on all other forms of pop music has been more total than people think. As I’ve said in this space, Alan Jackson’s “Good Time” is not too far off from a hip-hop cadence. See also Marcel, who was way ahead of the game when he wrote “Nothin’ to Lose” five years ago.

  30. Peter
    July 31, 2008 at 2:29 pm Permalink

    @ Chris N.: I’d be inclined to agree…Toby K.’s been crunkin’ it for some time now with songs like I Wanna Talk About Me and Getcha Some. But for some reason, I always think of The Grateful Dead’s “Truckin” when I hear AJ sing Good Time’s chorus :)

  31. Stormy
    July 31, 2008 at 2:41 pm Permalink

    I don’t necessarily think that the MUSICAL influences of Hip Hop are a bad thing in country. However, the dated lingo-steal HAS to go. Toby Keith reminds me of that episode of Blossom when the dad goes “the kids still say awesome, right” and Six replies “we’re stopping now.”

    Yes, by the way, I was raised by television. In a barn by wolves and television.

  32. Peter
    July 31, 2008 at 2:52 pm Permalink

    I’d agree with that too, Storm. I’m very agreeable today, I must say.

    TV’s not a bad thing to be raised by – as Homer J. once said “I was raised in front of the TV and I turned out TV”

  33. Paula
    July 31, 2008 at 2:54 pm Permalink

    re: growing up on tv — last night something was on tv (a movie – i forget what) and i said “that’s marcus welby!” and my daughter said “who?”

    :-)

  34. Rick
    July 31, 2008 at 2:56 pm Permalink

    Stormy, I would surmise Taylor Swift never saw that episode of Blossom…

    PS – “Six” aka Jenna Von Oy put out a country album recently that I would guess didn’t make much of an impact anywhere. On the other hand she is looking quite good these days…
    Link: http://www.jennavonoy.com/

  35. Chris N.
    July 31, 2008 at 3:03 pm Permalink

    That’s funny timing, as I interviewed Jenna Von Oy last week. I never watched ‘Blossom,’ so perhaps it wasn’t as disorienting for me as it could have been.

  36. leeann
    July 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm Permalink

    That was something that my mom must’ve thought was wholesome enough for us to watch, because I watched it, not enough to quote any lines from it though.:)

  37. Katie
    July 31, 2008 at 3:36 pm Permalink

    Leeann, that’s so funny because Blossom was the one show my Dad forbade us to watch. (And this was the age of 90210 and Melrose Place.) He thought it was so risque. But I think he really hated how dumb and corny the dad was (see evidence above).

  38. leeann
    July 31, 2008 at 3:47 pm Permalink

    Hmmm…I don’t really remember the show much. Maybe we watched it when she wasn’t around?

  39. Stormy
    July 31, 2008 at 4:43 pm Permalink

    I heard she was going to put out a country album about 7 or 8 years ago (I was still in Oregon). I cringed when she said she didn’t want to do anything too country but more like Tim McGraw. But then again the song that turned her on to country was The Song Remembers When.

  40. Stephen H.
    August 1, 2008 at 1:38 am Permalink

    In terms of “Good Time”, that’s basically an amalgamation of hip-hop, country, and blues influences. Again, like I said earlier, there’s only so many things you can do with a 12-bar blues melody.

  41. Matt B.
    August 1, 2008 at 12:31 pm Permalink

    Midas Records just announced the firing of all of their promotional staff and the ending of their distribution partnership with New Revolution. They already have farmed Adam to Big Machine and Montage Music helped promote/distribute Emerson Drive’s last record. Wonder who will promote and distribute it now?

  42. Bill
    August 7, 2008 at 6:48 pm Permalink

    Little success with Crazy Days? Guess whoever wrote that didn’t read the whole release and I quote from roughstock “Gregory’s debut single, “Crazy Days,” is experiencing great success at Country radio, rising this week to #35 at Country Aircheck, #37 at Billboard/ R&R and #23 on the Music Row chart, after only 13 weeks on the charts.”

    FYI.. according to all charts, he is continuing to move up….

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