Comments on: Album Review: The Lost Trailers – Holler Back http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/ The latest country music news and reviews. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:04:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Leeann Ward http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-145481 Leeann Ward Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:53:48 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-145481 As a random, unnecessary aside, my line of work makes me extra sensitive to how "retarded" is used so freely/as a pejorative. As a random, unnecessary aside, my line of work makes me extra sensitive to how “retarded” is used so freely/as a pejorative.

]]> By: Leeann Ward http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-145479 Leeann Ward Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:48:59 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-145479 Depends on how seriously one takes Wikipedia, anyway. Depends on how seriously one takes Wikipedia, anyway.

]]> By: Dave http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-145476 Dave Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:42:07 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-145476 Another thing, Brady. I can't believe that reviews like yours are taken seriously enough to be used on Wikipedia when you use such impressive wording as this: "And Lee sings it with enough conviction to make it possible that it might actually work until you realize how utterly retarded it is." Retarded? Is that the best you can do? Are you in 8th grade? Another thing, Brady. I can’t believe that reviews like yours are taken seriously enough to be used on Wikipedia when you use such impressive wording as this: “And Lee sings it with enough conviction to make it possible that it might actually work until you realize how utterly retarded it is.” Retarded? Is that the best you can do? Are you in 8th grade?

]]> By: Dave http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-143042 Dave Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:43:45 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-143042 You posit that "How 'Bout You Don't" is lame and ridiculous because the scenario is unbelievable. Which country song has a believable scenario? I can name at least 5 off the top of my head where the lyrics don't make any sense or have unanswered elements in them that leave you scratching your head: 1. Before He Cheats (what, no arrest or jail time for Carrie?); 2. Good Directions (a right will bring her back to him? Does the right basically become a u-turn?) 3. Where I'm From (So when someone asks you where you're from, instead of saying, "City, State" or "State" like most people, you answer with a long diatribe of BS describing what it's like where you're from which would still leave the person wondering where in the hell you are from?) 4. Eight Second Ride (So telling a girl to watch your dip cup and that it's going to be wilder than any 8 second ride is not lame and ridiculous?) 5. What Was I Thinkin'? (Of course, that storyline happens ALL the time in reality) You posit that “How ‘Bout You Don’t” is lame and ridiculous because the scenario is unbelievable. Which country song has a believable scenario? I can name at least 5 off the top of my head where the lyrics don’t make any sense or have unanswered elements in them that leave you scratching your head: 1. Before He Cheats (what, no arrest or jail time for Carrie?); 2. Good Directions (a right will bring her back to him? Does the right basically become a u-turn?) 3. Where I’m From (So when someone asks you where you’re from, instead of saying, “City, State” or “State” like most people, you answer with a long diatribe of BS describing what it’s like where you’re from which would still leave the person wondering where in the hell you are from?) 4. Eight Second Ride (So telling a girl to watch your dip cup and that it’s going to be wilder than any 8 second ride is not lame and ridiculous?) 5. What Was I Thinkin’? (Of course, that storyline happens ALL the time in reality)

]]> By: The Lost Trailers "All This Love" | The Georgia Jukebox http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-130542 The Lost Trailers "All This Love" | The Georgia Jukebox Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:25:45 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-130542 [...] thinks it will keep them on Country Music Charts;  The 9513 thinks its [...] [...] thinks it will keep them on Country Music Charts;  The 9513 thinks its [...]

]]> By: Nina http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-126320 Nina Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:12:27 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-126320 Okay, I. LOVE. THIS. SONG. It is so much fun to listen to, and I'll hear it on the radio and just freak out. Okay, I. LOVE. THIS. SONG. It is so much fun to listen to, and I’ll hear it on the radio and just freak out.

]]> By: Brady Vercher http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97452 Brady Vercher Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:59:51 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97452 I started at the midpoint as an example because I don't think a case can be made for this album being anything more than average. I guess the only way 2.5 could be a disputable average is if you considered the majority of albums to be better/worse than 2.5, thus raising/lowering the average. If you're going to use a bottom-up approach, you have to explicitly define the criteria beforehand and factors like commercial potential shouldn't figure into the equation. As for factors contributing to an above average album, try: originality, interpretation, song quality, consistency, thematic vision, and execution amongst others. A rating isn't going to reflect every aspect of the album, however, and that's why it accompanies a review, which should help explain or justify the rating. I dunno if the beer scenario was supposed to be a joke or to explain your wanting to give the album 3 stars, if so, good job. Otherwise, numbers/ratings aren't limited by perception or the physical properties of beer. I started at the midpoint as an example because I don’t think a case can be made for this album being anything more than average. I guess the only way 2.5 could be a disputable average is if you considered the majority of albums to be better/worse than 2.5, thus raising/lowering the average. If you’re going to use a bottom-up approach, you have to explicitly define the criteria beforehand and factors like commercial potential shouldn’t figure into the equation.

As for factors contributing to an above average album, try: originality, interpretation, song quality, consistency, thematic vision, and execution amongst others. A rating isn’t going to reflect every aspect of the album, however, and that’s why it accompanies a review, which should help explain or justify the rating.

I dunno if the beer scenario was supposed to be a joke or to explain your wanting to give the album 3 stars, if so, good job. Otherwise, numbers/ratings aren’t limited by perception or the physical properties of beer.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97425 Thomas Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:41:35 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97425 brady, my grading system in this case is a straight-forward textbook bottom-up valuation with, arguably, disputable criteria. yours, however, sounds more like a "from a disputable average going up or down" system, which is something brand new to me. just out of curiosity, what exactly makes you go one way or the other when you start out there in the middle? by the way, put five beers in front of your collegues and ask them to define the middle - how many of them would start cutting no.3 in halves? brady,
my grading system in this case is a straight-forward textbook bottom-up valuation with, arguably, disputable criteria. yours, however, sounds more like a “from a disputable average going up or down” system, which is something brand new to me. just out of curiosity, what exactly makes you go one way or the other when you start out there in the middle?

by the way, put five beers in front of your collegues and ask them to define the middle – how many of them would start cutting no.3 in halves?

]]> By: Brady Vercher http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97103 Brady Vercher Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:53:23 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97103 A market is made up different opinions, but that in no way is a reflection of quality and don't see how that justifies anything more than one star. An average album is 2.5 stars and this is easily less than an average album. If anything is mind boggling, it's your grading system. A half star because the album shows commercial potential? The rating isn't a prediction of success. A proficient vocal is expected from a major label and isn't worth a star on its own. There isn't anything unique or especially compelling about Ryder Lee's vocal and none of his interpretation's elevate the quality of the songs. A million bands can mimic the overall sound of The Lost Trailers and plenty of them can create something more compelling, so that certainly isn't worth a star. Again, starting at 2.5 stars for an average album, I detract for lack of originality, unbelievable lyrics (not in a good way), lack of substance, and recycling 4 songs from their previous album. Surely a case can't be made that all of those factors contribute to an album that's more than average. It'd be easy to consider each album individually and chalk up every positive aspect while ignoring the negatives and give them all five stars, but that'd be tantamount to focusing a little too much on the tree... A market is made up different opinions, but that in no way is a reflection of quality and don’t see how that justifies anything more than one star. An average album is 2.5 stars and this is easily less than an average album. If anything is mind boggling, it’s your grading system. A half star because the album shows commercial potential? The rating isn’t a prediction of success.

A proficient vocal is expected from a major label and isn’t worth a star on its own. There isn’t anything unique or especially compelling about Ryder Lee’s vocal and none of his interpretation’s elevate the quality of the songs.

A million bands can mimic the overall sound of The Lost Trailers and plenty of them can create something more compelling, so that certainly isn’t worth a star.

Again, starting at 2.5 stars for an average album, I detract for lack of originality, unbelievable lyrics (not in a good way), lack of substance, and recycling 4 songs from their previous album. Surely a case can’t be made that all of those factors contribute to an album that’s more than average.

It’d be easy to consider each album individually and chalk up every positive aspect while ignoring the negatives and give them all five stars, but that’d be tantamount to focusing a little too much on the tree…

]]> By: Thomas http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97089 Thomas Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:30:49 +0000 http://www.the9513.com/album-review-the-lost-trailers-holler-back/#comment-97089 different opinions make a market. my point is, i rarely have seen a review missing the point like this one. the one star verdict cannot be justified even if the record is taken apart word by word. it's so off, it's almost mindboggling. only ryder lee's vocals alone are worth one star, the overall sound of the band is worth another one. the potential of this intentionally commercial and radio-friendly effort to yield three chart-hits is worth and additional half star. the musical flow of the record is easily another half star - it's a very enjoyable listening from the first to the last song. even more so, when listening to it in the car. quick addition: 3 stars. as much as i usually enjoy your way of dissecting songs and particularly the lyrics - this time, it has led you to not seeing the forrest for the trees. just one example: show me the person that said the "right thing" at the moment of being left and being the big loser. hardly moments that inspire sensible originality. something that comes across a little retarded wouldn't be so unfitting under the circumstances. these guys may not be the rocket-scientists of country music, but on this album they put some nice drive in their country and the result is a very listenable and enjoyable record. then again, different opinions make a market. different opinions make a market. my point is, i rarely have seen a review missing the point like this one. the one star verdict cannot be justified even if the record is taken apart word by word. it’s so off, it’s almost mindboggling.

only ryder lee’s vocals alone are worth one star, the overall sound of the band is worth another one. the potential of this intentionally commercial and radio-friendly effort to yield three chart-hits is worth and additional half star. the musical flow of the record is easily another half star – it’s a very enjoyable listening from the first to the last song. even more so, when listening to it in the car. quick addition: 3 stars.

as much as i usually enjoy your way of dissecting songs and particularly the lyrics – this time, it has led you to not seeing the forrest for the trees.

just one example: show me the person that said the “right thing” at the moment of being left and being the big loser. hardly moments that inspire sensible originality. something that comes across a little retarded wouldn’t be so unfitting under the circumstances.

these guys may not be the rocket-scientists of country music, but on this album they put some nice drive in their country and the result is a very listenable and enjoyable record.

then again, different opinions make a market.

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